Posted By J Knight Hi Fornhelper, My first thought was to go to the CSCI page, but it seems they don't have specific standards; however, they might be able to tell you who would issue the kind of guidance you're looking for. I say this because they do regulate Care premises which have day-care as one of their services, and where day-care is part of a wider residential service it is inspected by CSCI when they come to call. Their url is http://www.csci.org.uk/ I'd be interested in what they say, John

Posted By J Knight I suppose how I was thinking was that in Residential Services a certain number of Care hours per person is a condition of registration, and there is, or used to be, a formula for that. However, in day care I suspect that the previous post is part of the way there, in that it will be a matter of assessment, based on the people attending, the activities carried out, the nature of the premises and yes, safety considerations including evacuation. What is the situation you are asking about? John

Posted By Fornhelper Thanks for responses...this was based on the need to evacuate and have settled for 1 carer / wheelchair plus 2 carers to oversee 'able bodied clients'. Other issue this raises I suppose is: Can we expect staff to evacuate clients if there is a fire? If on the one hand we instruct office based staff to leave a building immediately on hearing a fire alarm but expect care staff to remain on site and oversee client evacuation do you think we are setting different standards? Bit off the thread I know but be interested on any views. FH