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Posted By Paul Rhodes
We have been broke into twice in the last four weeks, first time vehicles taken from the yard (very professional used cutting gear to remove gate locks, locks on vehicle trailers, disarmed the immobilisers and trackers). Second time broke into an out building and stole computers.
My company know want to install razor wire around the building, has anyone any experience of using razor wire?
I would prefer to use alternative deterrents, such as CCTV
Be out of office until 4pm
Any comments welcome
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Posted By Makka
There is no problem using razor wire per se, but there are some issues around it.
I will say that it is nasty stuff and can cause serious injury.
As long as it is high enough not to be touched by passers by, and signage is fixed to the sites external fencing, and areas where it is used there should not be a problem.
You have to let people know that razor wire is fitted as it is hazardous stuff.
I have known a gardener get a slashed face because he accidentally cut a strand of it whilst undertaking high level foliage cutting. When cut the strand whipped through the air as the tension on it was released.
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Posted By David Bannister
Hi Paul, next time they'll probably wave at the CCTV before nicking it and the recording equipment, unless backed up by other security measures.
My understanding of security is that it needs to be built up in layers so that it is no longer worth the effort of defeating it. Razor wire is very nasty - hence its use as a deterrent. Hard to see though how it will prevent another attack on the gates.
Razor wire at ground level is for International Borders between countries at war. It has no place in a workplace.
A combination of better gates, hinges and locks, good fence/wall, topped by razor wire (at sufficient height to be away from passers by), supplemented by CCTV and manned security with good visibility within the yard (helps the thieves too).
No absolute solution. I know of one company that simply gave up on the location and moved away! Do you have to store the vehicles there?
Good luck.
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Posted By Maggie Atterbury The previous advice you have been given above is sound, but also do contact your local Police Crime Reduction and Architectural Liaison Officer - ours is very happy to tour sites and advise on practical security measures. There is also a web site you might try www.securedbydesign.com this is the Police initiative supporting the principles of designing out crime. ‘Secured by Design’ licensed companies produce security products, including doors and windows, etc, which pass police standards and are designated 'Police Preferred Specification'. Maggie Atterbury
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Posted By Morgan Healey
Have you tried leaving a couple of Pitbulls on the premises.
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Posted By MAK
Morgan,
I have never objected to any posting before up till now but your post, is at best, insensitive given the current story in the news.
To put this kind of comment on such a professional forum cant and doesnt portray us in any kind of positive way, to any non-members who come here for advice
Myra Kelly
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Posted By I McDonald
Morgan
I like to think I have a dry sense of humour but have to say - bad timing!!!
Ian
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Posted By Paul Rhodes
Thanks very much for your comments, one of our guy’s said he had used this method before (razor wire) and that an incident happened putting is company in court for a breach of duty of care? Very brief description, but that’s all I have to work on.
My concern was they did not come over the walls the went through the gates, so what’s the point of razor wire? And they knew exactly what they where doing and what was of any value
Once again thanks for your help
Paul R
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Posted By Christopher
This is definately a case for your local crime prevention officer. Give your local police a ring. They are very helpful. They will do a report, and point you in the right direction. Its a free service
Good luck
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Posted By Merv Newman
Morgan is having a bad hair day, having already caused another thread to be locked out.
Can we talk Alsatians or Rottweiler's instead of pit bulls ?
A number of sites I visit do have guard dogs and it seems a very economical option. One guy on the gate, two dogs circulating and a lot of dog biscuits. Goes for me. And there is no way I'm going over the fence.
Merv
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