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#1 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Lewis We use four Class 1 laser marking devices on our two sites. They are regularly maintained and checked and if problems arise they are repaired tout suite i) for safety and ii) to maintain production. Today, one of the operators has told me that a "mate of his who used to do TIG welding says the glass screen has to be changed every 6 months". I am always wary of conversations that begin "a mate says" and pretty much convinced this his statement is incorrect as I've never heard of it before. If the glass is in any way damaged or scratched then yes, but every six months? Please tell me I am right, I have looked in the manufacturers manual and all my laser safety stuff. There is mention in regard to Class 4 because of degradation of the coating, but this one has stuck a thought in my head. John
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#2 Posted : 05 January 2007 14:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Blunt First there is no parallel to be made between TIG welding and lasers. You need to give us a bit more information about this laser. Your posting suggests that the laser itself is class 4 but that the associated shielding and interlocks make the final assembly operate in class 1. If this is the case you should be asking yourself (or the maintenance engineer) is there any way in which any of the shields or controls could have degraded to allow radiation in excess of the levels specified in class 1 to escape? Jane
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#3 Posted : 05 January 2007 20:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls Type of equipment could also have a type 2M laser source. Try the hpa web site they will answer most questions and its just an email away. www.hpa.org.uk/radiation/faq/laser/index.htm The email address can be found in the faq section , Who should I contact if I have more questions. Hope this helps Regards Alan N
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#4 Posted : 05 January 2007 21:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Marchant John...first of all are you referring to construction sites or fixed equipment? I can only answer for the former in this case. If they are mobile laser eqt they will be class one...if in doubt the eqt should state this...if you still have doubts contact the manufacturer or your service people...if the eqt is maintained as you say then they will change any glass when required. Gerry
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#5 Posted : 06 January 2007 01:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman A class 1 laser' is "inherently safe" (don't believe all you read) and I doubt it could be used for marking as it is not very powerful. This sort of level is used to read CDs and to illuminate pop concerts. Class 4 will burn through stainless steel. (I could probably quote petawatts but shan't) "Marking" lasers will be class 2 or 3, depending on the materiel to be burnt. Totally enclosed area with no possibility of reflection into the eyes. No-one needs to see a 2, 3 or 4. Maybe the maintenance technician (highly trained and aware) will check the results of a burn, and will be wearing appropriate (for the wavelength) eye protection. What glass are we talking about anyway ? Merv
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#6 Posted : 08 January 2007 08:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Blunt Class 1 is intrinsically safe, both to the eyes and to the skin. The maximum power of a class 3 laser is 0.5 W. Anything over this must be class 4. The sorts of laser that can melt steel are of order kilowatts (not peta-watts). So class 4 is a big class, and by no means all class 4 lasers can melt steel. They are all, however, a serious threat to the eyes, both from mirror-reflections and from diffuse reflections (e.g. from a brick wall). There is a distinction to be made between the class of the laser and the class of the product that contains it. A class 1 product may contain a class 4 laser, but by engineering design make it impossible for a person to be exposed to a beam above class 1. See this webpage for an explanation: http://www.hpa.org.uk/ra...on/faq/laser/laser16.htm Jane
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#7 Posted : 08 January 2007 09:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Lewis Guys, thanks for your help so far. The additional information I should have put on the first post is that the machines are stationary units used for marking Stainless steel, Cobalt chrome and Titanium components in a factory environment. The manufacturers handbook states that it is a Class 1 device and there is a label on the outside of the machine stating that, but it is unclear if that is with or without the door shut (is a there a distinction?). The doors are fully interlocked and the machines will not operate with them open. Our own people do not do any maintenance involving the laser at all, that is left to the manufacturers man. As it is an area of the work which seems to be organised I have let it be for now as there were bigger fish to fry in the company. Now is probably a good time to look at it in more detail. John
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#8 Posted : 08 January 2007 11:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Jane, I was exaggerating a bit on the petawatts but some lasers have been built up to that level of power. John, If you are marking those metals then I would still expect class two or three laser beams and the cover plate should say so. However there is probably a maintenance need for calibration. The technician might need to do this with the covers off, in which case a calibrating class 1 laser would automatically replace the main beam. Merv
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#9 Posted : 08 January 2007 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Lewis Thanks everyone for your input. I have put laser safety on my white board as an action point to be looked into. John
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#10 Posted : 08 January 2007 12:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Dowan Hi It may that it is a Class PRODUCT i.e a more powerful laser encased so that the beam can not be accessed in normal operations . I agree that maint may be an issue , for Laser safety courses try this link http://www.hpa.org.uk/ra...r/laser_safety/index.htm Reagrds Dave
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