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Posted By mancman
A person collapses on a bus station, not a trip, cuts their head, ambulance called, person taken to hospital.
RIDDOR or NOT ???
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Posted By Sean Warburton
I would suggest no mate and i wouldn't , but I'm sure someone will suggest otherwise and this will be one of those threads :)
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Posted By Crim
Depends if the bus station is somebody's premises? If not it's just like falling over in the street.
I'd wait to see what the A&E say as the collapse could be down to ill health, however if no suggestion of ill health then why not report it anyway just to be safe not sorry?
What did the person hit his/her head on?
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Posted By I McDonald
Mancman
based on info provided, NOT!!
Ian
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Posted By Adrian Clifton
Mancman
As this person collapsed and the incident did not arrive 'out of or in connection with work' the answer is no.
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Posted By ITK CMIOSH
Not Reportable.
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Posted By Descarte
But Adrian dont forget you have a responsability for the safety of visitors and members of the public to your site even if not in connection with work. I also presume that the bus station is a business premises?
Not saying that in this case it is reportable though.
But specificalloy mentioned is:
"a member of the public is killed or taken to hospital"
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"any other injury: leading to hypothermia, heat-induced illness or unconsciousness"
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Posted By terry mallard
What was was mentioned-not reportable- no way hosay.
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Posted By Sean Warburton
I said it would be one of those threads, and it always is with RIDDOR should i, shouldn't i threads, but it seems we are all in agreement it is a "NO" on this occasion.
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Posted By jackw.
Not work related!
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Posted By Adrian Clifton
Descarte
I am aware that an F2508 part D section 3 asks, 'was the injury an injury to a member of the public which meant that they had to be taken from the scene of the accident to a hospital for treatment?' but if you then read RIDDOR Reg 3 (1)(a and c) where it states when to report as, when (a) ANY person dies as a result of an accident arising out of or in connection with work' or (c) 'any person not at work suffers an injury as a result of an accident arising out of or in connection with work and that person is taken from the site of the accident to a hospital for treatment in respect of that injury'.
If someone walks into a building, collapses and dies from a heart attack, it is not reportable. If someone walks into a building and trips on a defective floor or slips on oil in a bus station and is taken to hospital, it is reportable. There must be a clear connection with work activities or omissions (i.e. work that should have been done)
Do not go by the F2508 alone which does not give the full details on when to report an incident.
Adrian
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Posted By Bob Thompson CMIOSH
no
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Posted By LZP
As above.
Not reportable unless the collapse can be attributed to work activity.
Lee
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Posted By Red Ones
If an accident occurs that it related to work - then yes. If it "was going to happen anyway" (I quote an EHO there) then no.
If they collapse because they had angina, heart attack, stabbing etc then no. This way you do not have to even report death if it not accident related from your work activities (hence suicides aren't reportable)
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