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Posted By KEVIN O'KANE
Well some members said it would happen and it has.....Picked up the current bun in one of our workshops today and there it is page 28 "fireman banned from using ladders".Just when you thought it was ok to go back in the water!!
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Posted By JEB
I put this on the forum yesterday in the Health and Safety being abused discus ion, it was in the Hull Daily Mail about the Humberside Fire Service. The FBU apparently have requested a risk assessment for firemen who put up smoke alarms using step ladders, as per usual the press blow it all out of proportion.
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Posted By Alan Nicholls
Well they did say it was householders step ladders, apparently the ones we as Joe Public buy, to do our working at height, destroy it yourself jobs at home. Are not fit for purpose. Also use banned under some H&S Reg or other (WAH) I think.
Utter drivel yet again.
Alan N
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
But it's working, isn't it.
Or did you think the downsizing of H&S inspection was just a passing phase ?
Wake-up children.
All the press "hysteria" is stage managed....think:
How much does providing H&S cost to business ?
Who pulls the chains that animate the westminster puppet show ?
Who owns the 'papers ?
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Posted By John Allen
Well said John!
I have long argued that the tabloid press have a vested interest in rubbishing health and safety at work (except when there has been a major incident when they wring their hands in sanctimonious grief and blame the regulators for not being tough enough).
However even the "sensible" end of the media can get it wrong sometimes. BBC Radio Scotland ran a news headline this morning about agricultural shows being threatened by new 'safety regulations'. However when they turned to the article in depth it was about veterinary disease control regulations, not about human health and safety. However many people will have heard the headline alone and the damage is done.
However some of the matter is in our own hands. Don't buy the tabloids. Cancel your subscription to tabloid related satellite channels. And when one of the sensible papers gets it wrong don't leave it to the HSE to set the record straight.
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Posted By steven123442
Picked up a copy of the Sun newspaper(?) on the train last night on my way home and found the article being referred to.
Also found an article about a young boy who was caught eating an apple in the wrong location at his school. As this was an H & S issue he was nearly expelled!!!!
The mind boggles.
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Posted By Watto
Come on everyone knows by now that everything that goes wrong in the world is 'elf n safetys' fault. We just carry on regardless trying to make sure little boys and girls mummys' and daddys' etc come home safe from work every night. On another note top gear is back on Sunday night, Clarkson and the team are brilliant whether he likes us or not.
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Posted By steven123442
On the theme of Top Gear I heard they are going to show some clips (or stills.....not sure) of Richard Hammond's jet car crash.
Richard Hammond has said that wearing a crash helmet probably saved his life and he hopes that motorbike riders will take note and realise the importance of this piece of safety equipment.
A positive piece of safety advice.
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Posted By darren booth
although they do tend to rubbish h+s on the show,richard hammond went to great lengths to explain how it was the shows (bbc's?) approach to h+s that saved his life.
maybe clarksons attitude will soften, who knows?
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Posted By JEB
Fine statement by Lisa Fowlie but before IOSH gets into a slanging match has Lisa actually spoken to the Head Master as the story may have been enhanced by the media.
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Posted By Tabs
"Richard Hammond has said that wearing a crash helmet probably saved his life "
My understanding from a friend who should know, is that it was thanks to the Stig that Richard swapped his normal open-face helmet for the white full-face helmet he was wearing.
If it is true, "Thank you" Stig.
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Posted By Jon Vitta
To the original subject
The Hull newspapers source was the IOSH website according to the newpapers website, the reporter even lifted some of the comments from the discussion board.
who tipped off the reporter I am unsure of.
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Posted By johnny dee
It seems there is a direct quote from the headmaster, referring to H&S:
"But today headteacher Chris Richardson said the teenager and his parents had escalated a "relatively minor disciplinary incident" by repeatedly refusing to accept his punishment.
"A Year 11 student was caught by a member of staff eating outside a designated area and, in line with our school policy, was placed in a half-hour lunchtime detention," he said.
"For B>health and safety reasons /B>students are only allowed to eat in designated areas. All students are aware of this rule and the consequences of not adhering to it." "
Is it not possible that even authority figures misuse the H&S legislation to hide behind?
It's not effective to always blame the media.
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Posted By James Goodstadt
Could it be they are confusing hygene (I've spelt that wrong, I know) with H&S? I could appreciate why they may not want people eating food outside designated areas so as to avoid pupils leaving apple cores etc around attracting vermin into the school.
Or maybe they are just using H&S wrongly?
James
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Posted By Pete48
But this one is an "elfansaferty" matter isn't it?
What is causing the confusion in my view is the "soundbyte" or jargon use of the words without thought.
Then, as it is currently "acceptable" to bash unwanted control, usually as soon as the words elfansaferty are seen, the media will obviously and quite coreectly use it for a political (not party political!) agenda.
Back to specifics of this latest case, public health, vermin control, eating without proper hygiene or supervision, safeguarding vulnerable groups might all be matters that underpin the rules about eating in schools, some of which are almost neighbourhoods when you consider the number of pupils and the sheer size of the premises.
The response from us needs to be consistently more focused on bringing the real reasons for the decisions into the public domain and not on rubbishing the rubbishers.
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Posted By Pete48
James, I was writing at the same time as you by the look of things, mine is not a response to yours
pete
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