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Posted By mark limon
I went to my local college today to enrol on the City and Guilds 7302 course.I brought the application form home and when I went through it I found they want,besides the course fees £33 for a CRB check,can anyone tell me why,is this normal.
Im not applying for a job with children or vulnerable adults,I am paying for training out of my own pocket for a qualification I may or may not use in the future.I would expect to pay or my future employer pay for such a check if I was wanting to take on such a role in the future.
To be perfectly honest(usually a statement meaning the opposite)I would rather chew glass than teach or instruct teenagers.
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Oh, don't worry. They are carried out on everyone now....any work with, or near, or in the same country as children or "vulnerable persons" needs an enhanced crb check. You can get some comfort from the fact that most paedophiles don't get caught by crb checks, because they tend to lie. In any case, the backlog is so large that you may well finish the course before they get the results. They will then tell you you cannot take it, and you can ask for a refund. Oh, speeding offences count as criminal offences as well ! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/2249413.stm
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
Cambridge charges ?36.00....so yours is cheap...must be an el-grotty college.
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Posted By mark limon
Im not worried,I just dont see why I should fork out an extra £33 on top of the normal fees to attend(not teach) a class.
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Posted By Pete48
John, the safeguarding of children is about more than paedophiles. It is the media who use that single aspect of abuse as a headline just like conkers bonkers for safety, it is a good hook and that is all it is.
CRB checks may be relevant for vulnerable groups and not just children.
Mark, I suggest you ask the college directly why they insist that you have this check. That way you will find the reason for their requirement at that college and be able to better make the correct decision about whether to enrol or not.
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Posted By Pete48
Mark, this bit missed out of my last post.
"It may just be a clerical error and not actually required for your course."
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Posted By Bob Youel
as in all else risk assessment should id the need or not re CRB
I know of situations where 'agency' staff are not checked but are in closer/longer contact than perm staff who are checked
the answer is 'we dont have the £ to check all and anyway they are only agy staff and can be here today gone tomorrow' - so much for reality
Its another way of getting £ unless its justified
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Posted By Sean Fraser
"Oh, speeding offences count as criminal offences as well !"
Thats because they are. Speed limits are law, enforced by police. Break the law and you are a criminal.
So factually you are correct.
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Posted By Martin Gray
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I am currently undertaking the 7302 course in Gloucestershire and other than a literacy and numeracy test there was no requirement for a CRB check as this is a normal college course, and all training and micro teaching is done within the group of students on the course all of whom are over 18.
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Posted By mark limon
Ive contacted the college and they told me that I would only need a CRB check if I was doing my teaching practice on a placement where there might be vulnerable people.Im doing mine at work so its not applicable.
The form I got should have had this information on it.
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Posted By Holly McDermott
Mark
If I was an unsavoury character and wanted to get qualifications that would maybe, further down the line, allow me access to places and people that were vulnerable, then this is the kind of course that I would choose. Also I would not tell them my intentions.
Everyone uses the blanket controls when it is too costly and arduous to single out who needs to be covered and when they need to be covered. The majority of ear protection zones and building site work to this philosophy.
Holly
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