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#1 Posted : 19 January 2007 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By chris edwards
My son works in a small factory unit producing fairings for motorbikes. Fiberglass is used in the factory he says he has had no training or instruction and been issued no p p e or any barrier creams. What should his employer be doing
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#2 Posted : 19 January 2007 13:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Taff
How old is your son? and how many employees in the company?

If he is working with fibreglass (and associated resins and gelcoats) then at the very least he should be wearing overalls, protective gloves and a suitable respirator when mixing and applying resins.

He should also have received training in the correct use and storage of the ppe, how to report defects and how to obtain replacements.

At the very least (assuming more than 5 employees) the employer should have performed a suitable and sufficient risk assessment and recorded the significant findings and passed this information on to all employees engaged in the process.
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#3 Posted : 19 January 2007 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
Caution on the concept of "barrier creams". There is abundant evidence that these products do not provide the protection that many assume they are getting.

It is the view of the HSE (with which I totally agreed) that pre-work creams should not be used as primary protection as there is no validated evidence that they work and as there are many other factors that show that any protection that they may provide is illusory.

At the conference in September in Berlin of the European Society of Contact Dermatitis two papers were presented that showed greater absorption into the skin of the chemical when the cream was applied compared with untreated skin. There are other studies that confirm this.

I have a large collection of information on this and it all says: "Do not use them as protection".

Remember also that these creams are legally classified as "cosmetics" and are sold to you as such. If you then use them to protect your workforce then you will have reclassified them as personal protective equipment. On what evidence do you then base the assumption that protection is being achieved and what are the legal implications for you and your employer?

If anyone wants any more on this I will be happy to oblige. Just get in touch.

Chris
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#4 Posted : 19 January 2007 20:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By chris edwards
Thanks for the advice on creams. The is about 19 employees my son is 30 has had no training and has not seen a risk assessment or S W P.
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#5 Posted : 19 January 2007 23:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By ian milne
Previously worked for a bouyancy manufacturer and fibreglass company years ago. Main problems I remember from memory related to two areas; respiratory affects and skin affects. Adding the epoxies and resins releases severe irritant vapours that can lead to respiratory problems (eyes, throat and breathing) and can lead to a narcotic effect in enclosed spaces.

And handling the 'stuff' really brings your skin out as well, making it itchy, red and sensitised.

Also, you may notice that the 'smell' sticks to the skin and clothes. If you read the labels, it does often highlight this.

So, it could be a case of ignorant or uneducated employer or someone who is able to take a chance. Previous employer may of tried to do the same (and yes unemployment may of been mentioned quite a few times but nuff said) but some issues just need addressed.

If he looks to reatin his job and wishes to get his own info and gear (PPE), look on internet & hse website and it should highlight it. Masks cannot absorb these vapours very well as its fresh air ventilation that is needed

Hope these points help.

Ian

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