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Demolition work - what notification is required to HSE?
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#1 Posted : 27 January 2007 20:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor Hi everybody - I am looking for some help with a demolition question today. I am not familiar with CDM but recall that ANY demolition works requires notification to HSE - is this the case and can anybody offer some good references for safe management of demolition thanks Martin
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#2 Posted : 28 January 2007 10:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel the new regs are out v shortly - I advise running to them / speaking to your local HSE - all demolition irrespective is covered by the regs - only where the 30/500 notification parameters applies does it need notifying Note: Just because the demo falls below the 30/500 situation does NOT mean that it is safe - v-small works can be the most dangerous so notification is only part of the situation even if no notification is needed the demolition needs to be managed properly
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#3 Posted : 28 January 2007 18:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safetynut Do not forget the section 80/81 notification procedure in order to inform the local authority of the proposed demolition
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#4 Posted : 28 January 2007 20:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald As it stands, all demolition work comes under CDM but not all work is notifiable as per the 30/500 rule. However, always make sure that the contractor is competent. As mentioned above, even small demolition jobs can be tricky. However, no demolition job has to be dangerous, planned correctly and carried out by the right people it can be done safely and professionally.
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#5 Posted : 28 January 2007 22:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor thanks for reponses so far - Safetynut please clarify what is meant by section 80/81 ta Martin
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#6 Posted : 29 January 2007 08:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel 80/81 is a local authority notification re demolition and is not part of the CDM regs but should be undertaken
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#7 Posted : 29 January 2007 14:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald In Scotland you need a Demolition Warrant. Just in case you're north of the border. Regards Peter
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#8 Posted : 30 January 2007 19:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safetynut BUILDING ACT 1984, SECTION 80 AND 81 i have emailed you direct
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#9 Posted : 30 January 2007 20:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor safetynut - thanks for mailing me - unfortunately I note that my email address is out of date. I have updated now so would appreciate if you could send again - sorry for the inconvenience thanks Martin
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#10 Posted : 30 January 2007 20:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor All I have looked at Building Act and my reading is that this only applies to buildings. he demolition I am planning is of plant and equipment - large silo and hopper with associated duct and pipework. About 5 days work Do you think I will be OK if I follow the principles of CDM without the requirement to register with HSE? Martin
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#11 Posted : 31 January 2007 07:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald All demolition work is subject to the requirements of CDM. So even if you don't have to notify the job someone should be appointed as the planning supervisor (under the current regs)and someone appointed as the PC. They can be the same person or company as long as they are competent. Don't get caught out paying lip service to the priciples. Health and safety Plan required, written RA and MS and Safe Working Procedures. Although simple I imagine you are taking the silo down remotely using a demi spec excavator, piecemealing with crane and basket, or pulling. There is also the scrapping up or processings of arrisings with oxy/propane or shear. If anything went wrong you may need to provide written evidence of planned exclusion zones, active demolition zones, predicted debris zones, lifting studies, service isolations, planned traffic movements, gas management, selection of PPE, manual handling, wagon deliveries, registraton of the site for the transferrel of waste. Adequate welfare, lighting,records of training etc etc etc, and at the end produce a health and safety file. A lot can happen in five days. Don't get caught out.
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#12 Posted : 03 February 2007 22:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor thanks Peter - certainly a good deal more for me to consider here your advice is gratefully received Martin
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