Posted By Davelfc
Billy there was a thread a while ago and Hazel posted a response and said that, IOSH where looking into a way of members getting a card similar to the way CIOB are able to get a level of card? That was my perception, very frustration that with your credentials qualifications and experience you can't get a card.
I find the whole system inflexible, I have a strategy to get a fully qualified workforce with regards CSCS for all our directly employed I have enrolled over 20 personnel on NVQ level 2 for operatives, five supervisors on level 3, 1 manager on level 4 and 5 senior managers on level 5 NVQ's,
This will only cover a portion of the management & workforce, when you think organisations such as ourselves are also putting personnel through BTECs on day release, HNC & HND and degrees all day release, and the chaps are working the other four days site based. The competence can be demonstarted.
The budget for this is immense, we are not a massive company but we are trying to invest in our workforce. CSCS I feel is almost putting itself out of reach, I only started with my company in May last year and we have made great strides, but it is difficult to get the providers certainly at NVQ level 5 for senior management, and the costs at that level are almost prohibitive.
If senior management have not got the appropriate level of NVQ hoaw can they expect the other management supervisors and operatives to be keen to gain NVQ, so I have started with all those at the bottom and all thsoe at the top for my next 2 years and will then concentrate on middle management.
sorry to go on I get quite emotive on the issue, In answer to your other question waht level NVQ is appropriate? an NVQ level 4 for Safety Advisor/Manager senior safety manager/director level 5, is my undestanding.
The whole point of NVQ really is to demonstrate competence, in that not only have you a qualification you have been assessed as being able to do the job. I think that is a good thing but as in your case there are other methods of demonstarting competence, i.e. CPD and membership to an organisation such as ours, but also the level of employment you are in with your qualifications, you would not be employed if you could not demonstrate a certain level of competence
Hope some of it helps, probably won't help you get a card.
The black card window of accreditation for CSCS Safety Manager was only open for two months why was that? When all other cards generally got two years, maybe IOSH want to ask the question why our members only got a small window of opportunity under industry accreditation and it was not advertised that well either?
I feel like most that it could be a little more flexible especially when individuals have a good level of qualification, ability, experience, industry knowledge which all add up to competence. apologies I almost feel like I have gate crashed your thread, but I have my opinions, and I am working very hard on competence throughout my organisation, though we don't need the cards as we are principal contractor I am pushing for all our subbies to follwo our lead.
Regards
Dave