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#1 Posted : 31 January 2007 10:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By dangermouse Hi may i ask for your help please? I remember reading about a dvd (for 2.50?) explaining about building tower scaffolding (i think?) and i wondered if anyone knows what i mean and where i can get it from thx in advance jac
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#2 Posted : 31 January 2007 10:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Homer I wouldn't mind a copy of this.
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#3 Posted : 31 January 2007 10:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie I think you are looking for the following PASMA "Don't Fall for It" DVD This DVD illustrates the two approved methods which incorporate fall protection during assembly, dismantle and alteration of mobile access towers £2.09 (presumably + VAT) See link http://pasma.co.uk/shop/..._list.jsp?mbSearch=start
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#4 Posted : 31 January 2007 11:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nicholas Rainsford Changing the subject a bit, but still on the subject of scaffolding - I carry out scaffold inspections prior to the scaffold being brought into use. Many times, I have to insist on a proper ladder being used for access; the usual response is that scaffold bars are arranged horizontally to be used as ladder rungs, on one side of the scaffolding - surely this will induce a tipping moment won't it? It doesn't sound correct to me anyway. Does anyone have any advice on ladder access to scaffolding? Thanks
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#5 Posted : 31 January 2007 13:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By dangermouse Thank you Martyn. just to let everyone know the website says you have to be a subscription memeber which is £15 annually but when I telephoned to order they said they would post DVD out for £2.09 plus vat without being a member thx again j
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#6 Posted : 07 February 2007 21:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Tilsley-Curtis FAO: Nicholas Rainsford Appologise if this may seem a little harsh Nicolas, but if you have to ask that type of question. Are you really competant to inspect the access towers. To inspect the towers you should really be competant to use them first, followed by some detailed instruction on what exactly to look for when carrying out inspecting new and existing access tower components. If you wish to email me duirectly I can put you in-touch with a suitable provide of the training. Regards David
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#7 Posted : 08 February 2007 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By karina brady1 Hi Nicholas, You are definitely not allowed to climb up the side of mobile scaffold towers as it would obviously cause it to overturn. There should be ladder access inside leading up to the platform. Operators also need to be trained and competent to erect mobile scaffold towers. A company I worked for in the past insisted only trained scaffolders or operatives who had completed the one day course could erect scaffold towers.
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#8 Posted : 08 February 2007 09:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch Hi Karina, On the contrary internal via scaffold components has always been recognised by e.g. HSE as one option, but not where the spacing of ledgers is typically about 600mm. From HSE Construction Information Sheet CIS10 2005 edition.... There must be a safe way to get to and from the work platform. This must be on the inside of the tower by an appropriately designed built-in ladder. It is not safe to climb up the rungs on the end frames unless the rungs have been specifically designed for the purpose of getting to and from the working platform – these have rung spacings of between 230 and 300 mm and an anti-slip surface. If you are in doubt, consult the instruction manual. HSG42 indicated maximum spacing of 300mm. Regards, Peter
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#9 Posted : 08 February 2007 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Tilsley-Curtis Peter You are completely correct in what you are stating. The design standard EN1004 allows for a ladder frame system to be used as part of the basis for the design and testing of the system. To assume the tower would overturn if the end frame was climbed from the inside would have to be the same assumption for a vertical welded ladder in the end frame. Regards David
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#10 Posted : 08 February 2007 11:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By db The issue with these internal rungs is that they are specifically designed and have non-slip tread etc. Ones without this should not be used. The "Don't fall for it" dvd shows two new ways of erecting these - which shouldnt be done unless you are PASMA trained. The first is using advanced guard rails which may only come from the hirer is you ask for them and the second is "through the trap" method which is a slightly different way of erecting scaffolding - by standing on a platform diagonally below where the next one is being erected and then sitting through the hatch to put the guard rails on. That way yore not standing in an area of danger where you are likely to fall while putting the guard rails on. This was deemed to be very necessary - The accident stats for towers are slowly catching up with those of ladders mainly because more people are using them incorrectly or are untrained.
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