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Posted By Karel Simpson
We have as a company decided that our electricans will be involved in the carrying out of PAT testing, however company policy states every two years for PAT testing but the elctrician seems to believe it is every 6 months for construction work.
Does anybody know where I can find this information from?
Is this correct on the 6 month basis or is it just good practise.
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Karel
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Posted By Mart
Every three months for Construction Sites.
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Posted By Karel Simpson
Sorry I should of explained myself a little better, we are essentialy a maintenace company who carry out repairs and from time to time small projects so we carry out construction work although not really on a construction site apart from these small projects, new stud partitions etc
Does three months still apply?
Regards
Karel
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Posted By Colin Richard Stokes
It is down to assessment. We as a construction company PAT all our site electrical tools every 3 months and visually inspect weekly by the storeman. Our Head office equipment is however tested every 3 years.
Hope this helps.
Colin
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Posted By Colin Richard Stokes
Whoops! that should be every year for office equipment.
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Posted By Pam Hickey-Jenkin
Hi Karel...!
Generally on construction sites there is a quarterly regime....however, there is not a pre-defined time frame as such, it is partially dependant upon the work/company etc.
you may find the following website of use though...
www.pat-testing.info
Hope you are enjoying the new role,
Regards,
Pam
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Posted By Jim Walker
Karel,
A forum search would show the umpteen occasions this has been asked.
Here is an answer I've posted in the past:
IEE produce a CoP for testing & examination of In use Electrical Equipment - it cost £25
Have a read of this as it explains Pat testing in detail and lays down some very sensible test period criteria.
Competent (to do PAT) persons ideally should have: City & Guilds 2377-01 and 02 - Management, Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment.
My own opinion is anyone NOT using the IEE code of practice is neither doing the job right and most likely wasting money too.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Generally before first use and then a quarterly combined inspection and test for hand held power tools (inc 110v).
HSE Publication HSG141 "Electrical Safety on Construction Sites" has a table showing all this. A similar table appeared in older versions of HSG150 too.
50V hand lamps and appliances in site offices = annual combined inspection and test.
Note that HSG141 suggests formal visual inspection frequency of monthly for 110v, weekly for any 220/240v. Formal visual inspection infers keeping a record of this inspection - not the same as a "User check".
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Posted By Crim
Is PAT testing still a recommendation or is it now a requirement.
Either way on site equipment is 3 monthly or as required if sooner.
Don't forget the operators pre use check as well.
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Posted By ian milne
From memory; I dont believe that there is a requirement that you 'must' pat test, just that you have to ensure its safe for use - but our fellow 'brethren' can correct me on this (i think 'leckie at work 89' regs perhaps).
The H&SE do post a leaflet on their website of the recommended visual inspection and test periods.
However, this (as always) should be based on risk assessment (yawn, stop me please) and how much abuse you see the equipment is getting.
Visual inspections are definately needed, frequently if necessary.
Not sure how this 'best practice' vs 'commercial' if used in an argument to persuade though. Please correct me if I'm wrong guys, its always good to learn more!
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Posted By holmezy
You don't have to PAT test, its just one of the ways of ensuring electrical safety. Periods between testing will be decided by usage, environment, users, etc and the enevitable RA. pre user checks are always recommended.
beer time
Holmezy
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Posted By Karel Simpson
Thanks to all who contributed in this forum.
As stated this is a subject where recommendations are mainly in place, for the operatives that are mainly project work based we will adopt a 3 month at the latest approach but we are considering adopting a start of project approach for longer project i.e. 6-8 weeks+ as we carry this out internally, NICEIC qualifying manager and holder of the city and guilds quals as well, with our general maintenance operatives we are going along the 6 month approach for the time being as mainly light use and if deemed from the inspections generally carried out we will shorten this approach as only projects that use 110v on frequest basis, majority of our equipment is now battery powered (chargers obviously need testing).
Once again thanks for help all.
Regards
KS
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Posted By holmezy
Karel,
chargers need testing?
Providing the plug and lead is ok and it doesnt get too hot, I'd be reasonably happy.
Having said that, all the phone chargers got done last time cuz it was easier to let them do the lot, rather than pick and chose, and extra cost was negliable. It was surprising how many chargers appeared from drawers, cupboards etc.
Beer time
Holmezy
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Posted By JayJay
Hi karel !
in HS(G)107 it gives the guidance for portable appliance tests on Construction sites as before first use and then every subsequent 3 months,
JJ
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