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Pulling over on the hard shoulder on motorways or enter lane closures,
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Posted By brian mills
At the moment we are using three vehicles to pull over on the hard shoulder on motorways or enter lane closures, that are Blue, Brown and Red, according to the below we are not compliant. We obviously have the motorway sticker and extra lighting at the rear and front
“ Any vehicle stopping on the highway for works purposes or inspections should be of a conspicuous colour yellow or white ….” . Non reflective yellow No355 (Lemon) to table 1 of BS 381C 1996 …… In addition it states that it should have a white arrow on a blue circular background & yellow backing board or chevrons or a solid block of fluorescent orange/red retroreflective material, However it goes on to say it must have the Motorway Maintenance sign mounted to rear & a roof mounted light bar with 2 independent light sources or 2 independent roof mounted amber warning beacons visible through 360?
Any thoughts please?
Regards
Brian
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Posted By Crim
“ Any vehicle stopping on the highway for works purposes or inspections should be of a conspicuous colour yellow or white ….”
Brian, I hate to say this but your answer is in the question. Why don't you just get the right colour vehicles?
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Posted By brian mills
Thanks Crim,
I would like to know if other members who interface with Motorway traffic have adhered to that section yet?
Did they suspend operations overnight until they complied, or allow themselves time?
That sort of thing.
Many thanks
Brian
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Posted By chris edwards
Hi
Chapter 8 will tell you all you need to know, however having travelled the road system in England quite a lot it seems most contractors do what they want or what they can get away with
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Posted By brian mills
Thanks Chris,
Yes its from Chapter Eight " Conspicuous vehicles for Motorway works", I was thinking exactly the same.
We work with the police and the T O's and they have never mentioned it.
Regards
Brian
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Posted By chris edwards
Hi
They properly don't know themselves, it seems that it is all open to interpretation
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Posted By brian mills
Thanks Chris,
When you say open to interpretation should not the the whole of Chapter 8 be "the minimum requirement".
It always surprises me that people who put on T M have so many different vehicles to do it, often not very safely, in sometimes the worst possible weather.
Anyway it looks as if we have to refrain from entering the T M or accessing the hard shoulder until the next batch of Company Cars come through.
Regards
Brian
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Posted By Ron Harris
Brian, I'm having a problem understanding this too. I think that the key word is 'inspection'. I interpret this as short duration inspection stops on the hard shoulder when risks are particularly high, which nobody will deny. Working within closures with TM protection reduces the risks. I am researching this and other issues at the moment and will get back to you. I'll monitor this discussion point.
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Posted By Ciaran McAleenan
Brian
The use of the word "should" indicates that the Department [for Transport] strongly recommends either one of these colours and clearly the preferred colour is yellow. It is not an absolute requirement which should give you some thoughts for when you change your fleet. In the meantime the colour of your existing vehicles are not proscribed.
One key aspect of safety on the roads is high visibility not just for people but for vehicles also, therefore the additional features; such as beacons, signs, chevrons etc are a definite requirement that can be fitted to any works or inspection vehicles. The specification is detailed in Chapter 8 (Operations Manual).
Best wishes
Ciaran
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Posted By Brian John Abbs
Brian
Chapter 8 is the minimum requirement (see section 5 in respect of vehicles)
Assuming you are referring to cars.....
You will need a yellow or white vehicle that can get up to 60mph very quickly (I can't remember the exact spec). Twin bar beacon visible through 360 degrees.
Red and yellow hi viz chevrons or alternatively the entire rear panel of orange hi vis.
Yellow highway maintenance sticker.
If the vehicle is involved in TM work it will need a red stripe down each side of the vehicle. Rear facing parts of door panels (the part with the door lock catchment) also have to have red hi vis/retroreflective stickers.
Vehicles also have to display company livery.
Chevrons, Highway maintenance sign, company logo can be purchased fairly cheaply on magnetic plastic and can be removed at the end of the shift. These wont work on plastic cars (Espace/Scenic anyone?)
The new Ch8 came into force on 01/07/06. We had been briefing contractors about the changes long in advance and most were prepared. However, supervision of any new control is going to be tested by contractors, so one or two did try it on. How shocked they were when they were told to leave site.
Some companies have up to two years to comply, due to the size of their fleets and size of the vehicles. I'm talking about the likes of blacktop pavers and aggregate wagons, not Ford Focus or Astravans.
Brian
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Posted By brian mills
Thanks Ciaran,
One thought though, if we covered the rear of the vehicles with Chevrons would we also have to have the red stripe down the side?
These are company cars used not for traffic management but to enter closures, to supervise/inspect the on-going work.
Regards
Brian
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Posted By Ciaran McAleenan
Brian
The specification referred to above is for vehicles involved in the setting out and maintenance of temporary traffic management. I don't know where the red stripe or the 0-60 mph in X seconds is coming from. I am not aware of this being in the vehicle specification or any part of Chapter 8.
In the circumstances you describe it seems that the beacon and the highway/ motorway maintenance sign would suffice, if you are just using the vehicles to get to and enter the work zone or for short duration stops on the hard shoulder. Make sure your drivers are aware of the dangers and the personal safety precautions they need to take.
If you will cause a slowing down of stoppage in live traffic then additional requirements are needed. Have a read of Chapter 8 (Operations) Section O5 "General Vehicle Issues", which is available for download from the DfT website;
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pg...nual/chapter8/?version=1
If the link doesn't work use the search facility on their homepage.
Best wishes
Ciaran
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Posted By RP
You must interpret the words of Chapter 8 of the Traffic Signs Manual, 'Should' means just that, 'Should' not must, based upon good working practice.
If is worth remembering that stopping on the Motorway is illegal without the appropriate permit issued by the overseeing organisation. This permit must be displayed at all times
If you park on the hard shoulder for any period of time and it is not an emergency then you can get booked by the police (Motorways Traffic (England and Wales)Regulations 1992).
There is also guidance on works on Hard Shoulders given by the Highways Agency.
You must also refer to other sections of Ch8 in that consideration should be given to the use of impact protection using a lorry mounted impact protection vehicle. Also, that single vehicle works on high speed roads are not permitted without a detailed risk assessment.
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