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Posted By Catman
Hi All
Construction site question.
In a large area for ground works the initial land investigations show up asbestos in the ground, various types.
The tender docs then say there is asbestos on site and the contractor should exercise caution when excavating.
Should the client provide a detailed type 3 survey document?
The client is asking for a price to be included to deal with and licensable work with & disposal of asbestos found, how do others deal with this when the price could be anything from zero to hundreds of thousands?
Any advice much appreciated.
Cheers
TW
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Posted By peter gotch
Hi TW.
Existing CDM1994 duty to provide information which client knows or can reasonably obtain, thence enabling more level playing field for tenderers. From HSG224 ACOP [bold text]
85 Clients must not leave it to
contractors to discover hazards.
Relevant information needs to be
considered at the design/planning stage
by the designer and those preparing
the health and safety plan.Without it,
the work cannot be property planned,
or decisions made about the resources
needed.The information needs to be
sufficient to ensure that significant risks
during construction can be anticipated,
and avoided or properly controlled. It
needs to include, for example:
(a) the presence, location and condition
of hazardous materials, such as
asbestos or waste chemicals;
Regards, Peter
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Posted By Catman
Thanks Peter
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Posted By Catman
Just a quick addition.......
Is it always necessary to remove buried asbestos?
On a risk assessment basis, it will be covered with concrete foundations eventually, so as long as the location is recorded, surely encapsulation in place would be the best option?
TW
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Posted By allan wood
came across a similar scenario a few years back where hardcore for a piling mat was inported to one of our sites, this hard core was later going to be used for various uses on the site. upon investigation the hard core was found to contain asbestos. the environment agency got involved because of a neighbour complaining about us building in the area and all the hardcore had to be completely removed from the site and disposed of as contaminated waste at our expense
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Posted By MAK New Control of Asbestos at Work regs 2006 apply, see http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/regulations.htm Basically you now know there is asbestos there, you know you will be dealing with various levels of risk here (due to there being various types), and as you will be disturbing the material you are likely to aggravate the situation. I would recommend that you now inform the client, designer AND the Planning Supervisor of the situation, and suggest they request a Type 3 survey (for major works and demolition) if the scope of the works indicate this is necessary. The client and the creators of the Pretender information i.e PS and Designer are all dutyholders here and as contractor, your company have responsibilities to prevent risk associated with exposure. The survey must know exactly what the project involves i.e construction activities and future use to come up with a decent and pertinent survey, the Client needs to stress that this survey must give recomendations as to remediation. A Risk Assessment must be undertaken by a licensed contractor to demonstrate exposure levels as a priority. The designers should have considered this in their initial design as this could be a significant risk, depending on ACM's present, and the PS while identifying the risk appears to have suggested limited controls here bason what you write. (is there a type 2? does this say what is present, where, why and what areas havent been checked? has any recomdations for removal been included?? Perhaps you can now ask a subcontractor to tender for survey and removal and put this to the client as a clear and seperate add-on cost. But raise your concerns now inviting the dutyholders to respond.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Reg 5 and ACop type 3 survey to MDHS 100 should be done but difficult with contaminated land.
Trial pits and gente excavation is the order of the day.
If you are likely to ncover AIB/Limpet or lagging you should have a licensed contractor on site to examine the excavations as they are removed carefully.
If its cement etc then no need for licensed contractor
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Posted By Catman
Thanks Everybody
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