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Posted By Carl
Here’s one for all you people in the rail sector.
To resolve what I see as an interpretation problem, could you please clarify for me one of the hours of work limits:
‘no more than 13 turns of duty to be worked in any 14 day period’
We work as sub-contractors on sat/sun T(iii) possessions which are generally from 12.30am-06.30am. Travel time is included to and from sites within the 12 hour working limit and we also use hotels to manage fatigue where necessary.
If we count ’13 turns of duty’ from Monday in the office, work all week and then work on NCI at the weekend, would we be able to work the following weekend on NCI without taking a rest day?
There seems to be 2 possible interpretations of this depending on whether the possession is counted as 1 or 2 shifts/turns of duty. Travel to site could start at 10.30pm Sat for example, so, do we class Sat night/Sun morn as 1 shift/turn of duty or 2?
PS. I have already contacted RSSB for clarification but I am still awaiting reply.
Carl
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Posted By Berg
Carl
The Sat/Sun shift is 1 night shift turn of duty.
Assuming 'office' is normal regualar 'days' 08:00 - 17:00hrs.
Mon - Fri = 5
Sat/sun = 1
Mon - Fri = 5
Sat/Sun = 1
Giving 12 turns of duty out of a possible a 14.
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Posted By Carl
Berg
Yes normal office hours.
Thanks for the response.
Carl
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Posted By steve e ashton
Which just goes to show how bizarre things can get when measures intended to protect health and welfare are over-specified. The Hidden recommendations are now seen to allow someone to work 50+ hours per week, with no opportunity for a single 'proper' break over how many months?
Forget the Hidden requirements - look at the working time directive! And then read what the the Baker report into the texas city incident had to say about the operators working too many twelve hour shifts without break.
Please folks - the 'limits' are intended to protect - if you go out of your way to 'bend' the limits then you get no protection. And (in my ever-so-humble etc) you will still be liable when some exhausted and brain-befuddled track worker makes a critical ommission. Even if, technically, you were in compliance with the specified legal standards.
If someone is going to be out on track on the Saturday night then don't require them to work the Monday day shift. You still get a forty hour plus working week out of them, and they get to have a 'proper' break occasionally - which is what the specifications were intended to achieve.
Sorry, rant over, normal service will now resume...
Steve.
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