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Posted By Joe Doc
I work in an LA and my team have recently inherited Housing Services and associated stock/ tenancy matters.
Some months ago a fellow poster 'MAK' raised a similar issue relating to tenant access/ egress during lift replacement works.
I would appreciate it MAK if you could update on any eventual solutions you found.
My own scenario relates to two tenant's who live in towers who will loose the use of their lift for 3 months;
(1) lives on 4th Floor, tower has two lifts and as mentioned one is going out of commission for 3 months. Remaining lift services even floors, tenant lives on odd floor. Proposal is to provide an evac chair and training to tenant/ family and propose on way out they lower tenant to next even floor and take lift for remainder and on return journey take tenant to upper floor and lower by evac chair to own level....easy!!
(2) lives on 17th floor (the top deck) so although we can use egress method above, I am struggling for an access route.
In addition to hearing form MAK I would appreciate any 'useful' comments that others may have.
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Posted By Alan Haynes
Have you considered temporarily re-locating the affected tenant[s] to another location [or to a spare flat on an even floor, if there is one]?
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Posted By Joe Doc
Apologies, should have covered that in original post!
There is no scope for moving either of these tenants.
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Posted By Linda Westrupp
The suggestion to move the tenants may be logical but probably not practical. Most tenants would fight tooth and nail not to be moved temporarily or otherwise and it is usually difficult enough to find homes for allthe people who want them anyway. Is there any scope for a stair lift on one or two flights as a temporary measure or would it be vandalised trapping them in their homes?
Linda
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Posted By steve e ashton
Are lifts physically prevented (no doorways) from stopping at intermediate floors or is it possible to re-programme the available lift to allow it stop at all floors for the duration of the works?
3 months sounds like a very long time for what isn't necessarily a huge job. Have you (or the landlord / client for the project) enquired whether the lift suppliers could trim their program (e.g. by getting all resources on site before work starts / by programming shift work / by allocating more resources (men) etc?
I do not believe it is reasonable to knowingly strand a resident for more than a day or two (even with plenty of advance notice).
Neither would it seem appropriate to suggest the disabled tenant should be obliged to use an evac chair.
Or to suggest the tenants' relatives / friends be required to lower him / her using one of them).
Evac chairs are not generally designed or built for routine use, many people dislike using them, and there are risks to users and operators which are only really justifiable in emergencies or under training for emergencies.
Whilst the tenant may not want to move - if the alternative is three months stranded - I don't think you really have any realistic options but to decant. Take the opportunity to offer to re-decorate and refurbish - try to make it seem like a benfit rather than an imposition.
Sorry, but you appear to be caught between the devil and the deep blue on this one.
Good luck
Steve
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Of course there are those tenants who see a decant as a path out of tower blocks so it is a fraught process. Like others though I think it is the only sensible path. 3 months is a long time and I am not sure of the extent of the work, it does seem a trifle long. If you are having to remove no more than the car and motors/winding equipment then a month would have seemed the most appropriate time for a competent contractor, although I do recognise that the new call telephone will be required.
The job is however subject to CDM and it would be interesting to know what information has been given and what co-ordination proposals have been made by yourselves and the Principal Contractor.
Bob
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Posted By David A Cooper
Hi, I am a lift consultant, see www.lecs.co.uk A number of local authorities are using temporary lifts which can be hired during a lift replacement or modernisation project. Happy to send more details if you want. Drop me an e mail.
Dave
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