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Posted By Andrew Joule Land
I have trawled every possible link site that I know to get reasonable guidance / any specific legislation / Acops that deal with this topic. the best that usually comes back is general "work at height regs" "working on roofs but nothing that deals with the problems faced when structures go past a few floors; Yes I do go through the Hazard analysis - risk assessment and develop specific Method statements. Help Please!
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Posted By Mike Draper
A bit more information might be helpful, but in reality once you get past a certain level (say 6 or 8m) if you fall the outcome is pretty certain, hence the precautions are fairly similar whether it is 6m or 66m.
There is guidance for crane use and fall prevention guidance is straightforward. Build methods are also well documented, e.g. using pre-fabricated elements and building in fall prevention as you go. Design guidance is readily available and training for workers is also standardised.
A key action though is emergency planning, i.e. what do you do when someone does fall and how do you get an injured person down?
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Posted By Andrew Joule Land
I appreciate the comment received, The Heights I am concerned with are 60 floors plus constructions.
One project alone has Ten fast track Tower Blocks 65 floors, very little PreCast, concrete being pumped, forming re-bar mats for slabs, M&E fit out, Lift shafts and all the other associated tasks being carried out in temperatures from 27 - 47 degrees C and high humidity.
Why I ask for specific Legislation / ACOPS is to be able to quote references plus utilising the information in the development of the safety documentation for the concerned projects.
Just my gut feel, considering the reluctance of the designers to fully appreciate their duties That their is a need for "legal clout".
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Andrew,
It is time that we dispensed with the myth that designers do not appreciate their duties and to give them their respect, as a profession, that they rightly deserve.
Since 1976 the major design professions, including the Institution of Civil Engineers and the Institution of Structural Engineers have been reviewing, developing and promoting safety as it affects structures of all kinds, including super high rise structures.
Have a look at their web site, http://www.scoss.org.uk/ and there you will find much useful information and evidence that designers do not need to be hit with legal clout to make to make them aware of safety.
Regards, Philip
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Posted By Dubai Safety
Andrew,
I agree with your comments there seems to be very little on high-rise construction, and any one who has worked on major high-rise buildings will know that useful information is very hard to find.
As for the statement from MIKE who stated "in reality once you get past a certain level (say 6 or 8m) if you fall the outcome is pretty certain, hence the precautions are fairly similar whether it is 6m or 66m"
I disagree with this statement, as the hazards and risk connected with major high-rise structures above 50 floors during the construction stage is totally different
For your information, there is a working group consisting of people from both the regulatory and commercial sectors in Dubai who are looking into developing a high-rise safety standard /regulation, if you are interested in participating please email me at: harrissafety@hotmail.com
On this same point, if anyone has any usefull document on high-rise safety during construction it would be appreciated. (Any contributions used to developing the new standard /regulation would be acknowledged within the final document)
Regards
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Posted By holyterror72
I think it depends on what you want to know and who you work for (Client, Principal Contractor, etc).
We have dealt with a lot of them and they potentially complicated. They aren't something you will find sufficient info on Google on.
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie
Andrew,
Are you talking about Slipform here?
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Posted By Andrew Joule Land
Martyne - excuse my ignorance - but is slip form a propriety product - I am not familiar with the term.
Dubai Safety I will be in touch.
Kind regards
Andrew.
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Posted By Andrew Joule Land
Phillip,
I am going of personal experience. From the Contractor side, by the time we are receipt of drawings, documentation, specs from the Client / consultants and have to create the shop drawings etc. If there was any information from the designer it is not easy to identify. Actually getting in touch with designer's is akin to the Davinci Code and if I've been able to contact I've met reluctance for them to communicate to us lesser mortals. As Safety Professionals we are the ones who usually have to sort the designers and other's requirements out through the hazard analysis risk assessment and method statement procees e.g. what are the existing control measures.
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