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Posted By Alison WR What do people do about training up non-union safety committee members - that is management representatives and ROES?
I'm interested in how much training you provide, what it covers, and whether you have providers you would recommend.
Our environment is straight-forward office work.
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Alison
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Posted By Simon Heesom Hi Alison,
If you look at the union web sites i.e. TUC they seem to start with the IOSH working safely course and add the union perspective / procedures to the course contents. so I would guess that would be the best place to start.
Simon
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Posted By Alison WR Sorry,
Can I clarify that I am not interested in Union training - we have that covered.
We have plenty of ideas about what our management members and ROES should receive in the way of training, but are trying to establish some sort of benchmark - hence the question about what training people provide for their non-union committee members.
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Alison
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Posted By Berg Alison
If they are management reps then something like the IOSH Managing Safely Course is a good start.
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings Hi Alison
I would train the people on the committee the same as anyone else in the business.
My view is that people should be trained based on their role in terms of influence and managerial position, rather than because they are on a committee.
If you separate training in a different way to those on a committee, you are essentially supporting a view (in my opinion) that the committee is there to manage safety. I just think that managers should manage safety as part of their everyday roles. The 'committee' (I dislike the word 'committee' it reminds me of some sort of village council) should focus its effort on improvement rather than reacting to issues that should be dealt with by the local managers and supervisors.
Why do we think that H&S needs to be managed by a 'committee?'. Do we have committees for all the other areas of business management?
Sorry, had a bit of a rant then. I think that committees were developed in the days when (hopefully not now, but I know they still are in some places) when management didn't give a toss about H&S. Hopefully they do now?
Cheers
Ian
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings Alison
Or of course you could just put everyone through the IOSH Managing Safely 4 day course. That should tick the box.
A less cynical response would be really to find our exactly what they expect and what the business expects and then build the training around the needs.
I have found that most businesses I have had contact with do not normally offer a separate training for their committee members. If you were to take each person involved and their area in the business, you could probably put something quite valuable together which would suit your environment.
If it is purely office based it could lean towards ergonomics, fire, control of contractors, food hygiene, stress, manual handling, welfare and COSHH; but I don't know enough about your business to assume.
Good luck
Ian
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Posted By Pete48 Alison, I agree with Alan about the committee not managing safety so I also challenge the premise that committee members need any safety training beyond that necessary to do their "day" job safely? The committes is a means to an end; namely to provide the best chance of effective, formalised consultation and communication with employees on H&S matters. You will be part of the process and available to advise the committee on technical matters. Therefore, in my experience, training needs to cover team / communication / consultation skills rather than technical safety skills. That way they avoid taking or being cast into the role of "technical and moral keepers of safety". It is governance or management planning committees that need a high order of safety knowledge and skill in the team. Chatting with my HR people found the solution for our culture and the right training for us.
Better that the committee request specific safety training as the need arises. That way, they will be specifying and justifying it; not you or others prescribing it for them. An example might be things like safety auditing skills if, for example, they were recognised as a useful resource to audit some safety performance areas.
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Posted By Darren J Fraser Free level 1 qualification offered by the BSC,is provided to all committee members and others as a start. We also involve the committee in risk assessments and are just about to start the 18001 process, so therefore they will be heavily involved in that also.
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Posted By Berg A Management Rep on a Safety Committee must be conversant with their safety management responsibilities and have a basic understanding of the legal duties in order to carry out their normal day to day role.
Therefore a basic Safety Management course should be sort if existing training and experience is not considered sifficient by those concerned as with any other aspect their management role.
This process is essentially for consulation but does have wider input into safety improvement if done well.
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