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#1 Posted : 14 May 2007 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By halesowen Baggie I know the safety cage comes under LOLER. I know the harness used from within the cage would aswell. But what about the straps that we use as a safeguard that hold the cage to the FLT mast. Our insurance company says No?
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#2 Posted : 14 May 2007 13:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Hannon Should this not have heel pins rather than straps to secure it to the forklift.
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#3 Posted : 15 May 2007 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Innes Gray I have seen them with both Normally the lifting cage should have a box section that the forks are held into. But people also use belt and braces approach to the cage i have seen both chain and the standard Tiedown ratchet straps applied to the cage/fork backrest. Both were something fitted by user and did not come supplied with cage. You would need to check this, if the cage came with them it should be checked as its part of the cage.
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#4 Posted : 17 May 2007 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By AlB According to Guidance Note 28 from the HSE you need to liaise between the manufacturer of the forks and the manufacturer of the cage and determine if the two items are compatible. This consultation should determine what attachments can or can not be used. Refer to the manufacturers to answer. AlB
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#5 Posted : 17 May 2007 10:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By GARRY WIZZ Having had a problem much the same I came to the following conclusion. Use of a non inter lock cage was a pain best avoided. The circumstances when you can you use them is quite restricted. All the non inter lock cages that I explored did not have a provided means of locking the cage to the f/lift. I was not keen on developing our own means of locking the cage. All the ones I have seen have been a strap or plate & bolts of local manufacture. Controls required for the f/lift / driver onerous dependant on the type of f/lift. we hired an inter locking cage which was wired into the f/lift controls. Not a great answer but I would make every attempt to avoid the use of a non interlock cage because if one of the numerous controls required fails to function then the outcome can be a great deal of trouble.. Garry
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#6 Posted : 17 May 2007 20:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bruce Wayne I recommend that you reconsider the use of a manbasket on a forklift. HSE guidance note PM28 indicates that they can only be used occasionally in 'emergency' circumstances where it is the last choice available in a control hierarchy. A proprietary MEWP is always the first preference with integrated controls in the basket and an emergency power system or release valve in the event of break down. I am in an area where the local HSE inspector has 'a bee in his bonnet' about the use of manbaskets and stops works wherever they are encountered for not complying with guidance. From PM 28 Method of securing The user shall ensure that, in accordance with the platform and truck manufacturer’s recommendations, the platform is positively locked onto the truck with which it is to be used. If the platform is fork mounted then the fork arms on the truck shall preferably extend fully into the fork pockets. If not this is possible, they shall extend to a distance of at least 75% of the platform length measured parallel to the axes of the fork arms. Fork mounted platforms Platforms for use on the fork arms of a truck shall have fork pockets on their underside that will accommodate the fork arms spaced at the widest practicable distance apart without excessive clearance between the pockets and forks. A positive locking device, e.g. behind the heels of the fork arms, shall be included on the platform to retain it on the truck when in use. Any loose components associated with the locking device shall be secured to the platform so that they cannot be mislaid when the platform is not in use. The fork pockets shall fully enclose the fork arm along the full length of the platform and they shall be fully enclosed along their underside. The working platform manufacturer/supplier shall provide instructions to allow the platform to be fitted and properly secured. Hope this helps Bruce
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#7 Posted : 18 May 2007 09:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By mintw If anyone has a copy of safe system of work for using forklift cage, can I have a copy of if please? Many thanks.
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#8 Posted : 18 May 2007 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher Kelly The fall-restraint actually doesn't come under LOLER - they are a PUWER item, there is a guidance note from a trade association in conjunction with the HSE and INDG367 for fall-arrest - must also be one for fall-restraint. The restraining straps to attach to the fork-lift are definitely LOLER. Is this the insurance company LOLER competent person ? Regards Chris
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