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#1 Posted : 22 May 2007 22:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hugo Hi all, Can anyone see a problem using a soft bosuns chair attached to an electric winch, with the operative wearing a harness attached to an inertia reel and seperate anchor point? They will work in a 600mm gap between two toughened glass sheets (shop facade, multi storey, with scaffold deck below), so no room for a platform. I have suggested a rescue plan and airbags, the work height will be 5.5 metres from deck level in a straight vertical accent, sealing with silicon. So its really the winch and chair issue i have concerns with. Regards Hugo
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#2 Posted : 22 May 2007 23:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By David AB Thomas You could consider using industrial rope access? See http://www.irata.org/
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#3 Posted : 23 May 2007 04:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hugo Thanks, yes I did recommend rope access and hiring a rope access team, however they were not willing to spend the money on outsourcing, training or training down time unfortunately. Regards Hugo
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#4 Posted : 23 May 2007 09:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Hugo How on earth did this miracle of modern design arise? I am also not clear concerning the degree of enclosure in this space - are the sides open to access or merely the top and bottom? Further if you have rescue plan and the organisation does not want to train then how are people going to know that the method is viable and can be carried out efficiently by the operatives involved etc etc? Specialist rope access workers may be the answer but even they may be a bit concerned with this situation as you describe. It sounds as though the seal has either deteriorated or been forgotten - In either case you do need to review this work both from the point of view of height and also space restrictions, after all 600mm is not a great deal of space for effective quality workmanship and I suspect any problems will keep recurring. If this is a newbuild situation then you need to raise this problem very quickly with the designers to find a solution not involving this work being required. Bob
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#5 Posted : 24 May 2007 14:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hugo Bob, your right, looks like they forget to seal it on placement. I have moved away from the idea - how to do it - and told them to train their guys in rope acess. They same outfit give me headaches every time I visit them. They are trying to make do. I do also put fault at the feet of the designersd and the Principle Contractors. I often think about moving to the dark side and working as a safety b---- for a MCG company to save on travel and loss of home time but from what I pick up on they are just propaganda and posters with no substance. Thanks for the input - if it cant be done safely then it cant be done,,, ho ho
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#6 Posted : 24 May 2007 15:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Reverse the thinking ... it will probably be much quicker, safer, and cheaper to tell an experienced rope access guy, how to squirt silicone onto the glazing. Just a thought.
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#7 Posted : 24 May 2007 19:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Hugo Even better - tell the principal contractor to tell you how he hopes to do the job safely under the defects liability clause of the construction contract - at least if this is a recently built building. You need to getr rid of this problem to those who caused it. I would also talk to your local HSE inspector as a CDM breach is lurking round here both under the old or new regulations. Bob
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#8 Posted : 24 May 2007 19:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Hugo Sorry I think the PC construction section may have passed it to their safety department if I read you correctly. If so go for the designers and the installation subcontractor. Bob
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