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Posted By vincenzo A type 3 survey has found asbestos on a floor in our office building that is due for refurbishment. There were significant amounts of Chrysotil(white) and Amosite(brown) asbestos found in some areas. The condition ranges from very poor/damaged to intact.
My understanding is that there is no immediate risk when the asbestos is intact, only when it has been disturbed or deteriorated.
Some of the asbestos found is in dust form and/or in very poor condition according to the survey.
The fact that asbestos has been found has raised a lot of concerns among the office employees. Some of the areas found to contain Amosite asbestos in poor condition are frequented by employees but not on a continuous basis.
Is it right in saying there is a need for our employer to put those areas off-limits, where asbestos condition is poor/damaged, to employees until Risk Assessments have been made?
Is there now an immediate need for our employer to inspect all areas of the building for any further asbestos and keep an asbestos register?
Is there anything else that to be aware of to protect the office workers from further risk?
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Posted By JW Vincenzo
If you would care to contact me off the forum I would be more than happy to discuss the options available to you.
JW
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Vincenzo
You have not made clear which is the host country for these offices. If I presume the UK then the statements you are making suggests that a routine type 1 or 2 inspection should have identified these as suspected materials and the requirements for a management plan were required even under the CAW regs 2002, not just since the CA regs 2006.
EU countries have the same broad requirements as the regulations flow from the same directive. Elsewhere you need to refer to local regulatory requiremnts.
The problem as it stands however is that you do need a management action plan that will ensure that further exposure will be eliominated and dust spread reduced to below the regulatory limit. As you are about to refurbish you need now to talk to your designers to decide the best options, which may involve partial or total removal as necessary.
Please email me if you need some help. We can work out of UK if needed on an advice basis.
Bob
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Posted By Martin Hilditch Vincenzo,
It is important to know what materials the asbestos was part of before the damage/debris was formed, i.e. cement or thermal insulation, as this can mean the difference between licensable and non-licensable work.
Before any further refurbishment work is carried out, the building materials found to contain asbestos should either be encapsulated or removed under your employers duty under CAR 2006.
Bob, it would be a Type 3 survey as this type of survey covers refurbishment and pre-demolition work. This type of survey is more intrusive into the structure of the building, due to the nature of the work to be carried out.
No risk assessments are involved in a Type 3 survey as it is presumed that all materials found to contain asbestos will be removed or encapsulated.
Mart
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Martin
I was trying to point out gently that there should already have been some form of assessment under the 2002 duties and both the Type 1 and 2 should have picked up materials that can be accessed by employees. I realise that the type 3 was probably done as a pre-refurb item. Whatever is intended in the future a Management Plan is needed now to cover the period up to removal or encapsulation.
Bob
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Posted By Dave Wilson Remember since the change in the law CAR 06 the potential for fiber release when working n ACM's is now the criteria for distinguishing between licensed and unlicensed.
If you are going to release more than 0.1f/ml twa 4 hours or 0.6 f/ml for any ten minutes then this work is automatically the remit of a Licensed Contractor.
So potentially all work with ACM could be licensed but depends on the expected fiber release.
In essence if there is an HSE Task card for the work then an un-licensed contractor can do it, however if he is going to go above and beyond the task card sheets then this work will not be deemed 'sporadic and low intensity' and you cannot do it.
CAR is risk based and not product based
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