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#1 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brenda H Do they require 6 monthly loler inspections in the same way fall arrest do? Thanks
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#2 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff What is you understanding of the difference between the two types?
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#3 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Stephens The information here is what you need - restraint is, of course, not strictly fall arrest. http://www.hse.gov.uk/LAU/lacs/68-6.htm
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#4 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Stephens Restraint prevents, arrest mitigates.
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#5 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brenda H Thanks Neil i'll have a look
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#6 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff What I getting at is why use two different types. I always use a lanyard with and absorber between me and the anchor, cause you never know
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#7 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy As already stated, fall arrests mitigate the fall, restraints prevent persons reaching the fall point ie edge. Think of them as a dog lead, but secured around the waist not neck ( mmmhhh, theres a thought!!). No statutory requirement to inspect restraints on a 6 monthly basis, however pre use checks are advisabel. Holmezy
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#8 Posted : 14 June 2007 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Stephens Brenda Sorry - this is better http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg367.pdf
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#9 Posted : 14 June 2007 12:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brenda H Thanks all, I was thinking along the same lines that as you shouldn't get to the point of falling/hanging, therefore they are not required to hold/lift someone and therefore not require the stat 6 month. But the normal pre-use and inspection (inline with manufacturer's recommendations) is what I was thinking.
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#10 Posted : 14 June 2007 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Simply because a fall restraint offers a far higher level of protection; I still see operatives in my travels using shock absorbing on a restraint system as opposed to a fixed length, the former kind of defeats the means of the whole protective principal.
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#11 Posted : 14 June 2007 12:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff Which part of LOLER does this come under??? Are you shure its not PPE regs, WAH regs and BS EN 365: 2004
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#12 Posted : 15 June 2007 09:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff No takers?
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#13 Posted : 15 June 2007 10:44:00(UTC)
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#14 Posted : 15 June 2007 10:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Apologies Neil, didn't see your earlier links. CFT
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#15 Posted : 15 June 2007 11:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff Thanks But back to my question which part of LOLER does this some under LOLER is not mentioned in any of the links. Is it perhaps that using restraint and fall arresting equipment is not actually a lifting operation and therefore none of the equipment is lifting equipment.
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#16 Posted : 15 June 2007 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew W In reply to CFT's earlier comment regarding the use of Fall arrest lanyards on a restraint system this is acceptable. If the restraint system is correctly adjusted to prevent a person reaching a position where he/she may fall it acts as an integral part of the restraint system. Normal body weight pulling against a shock absorber will not cause it to deploy. The problem arises when the restraint system isn't correctly adjusted and allows a person to reach an area where he/she may fall, which is a problem with either restraint or fall arrest lanyards. Any doubts contact Spanset or any other major manufacturer they'll confirm this. Andy
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#17 Posted : 15 June 2007 15:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Andrew Sorry; perhaps I didn't make myself clear. If a fall restraint system is installed per se; then the lanyard in use should be of a fixed length and designed for use with said system. My point (which I did not make clear enough) was, if a fall restraint system is installed on a roof for example, then a shock absorbing slide chuck lanyard with a length that would exceed the edge parameter should NOT be used in such a set up. CFT
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#18 Posted : 15 June 2007 18:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By David AB Thomas See BS8437: 2005. LOLER not applicable.
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#19 Posted : 18 June 2007 21:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Walker CFT We seem to be in danger of agree on this matter Andy
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#20 Posted : 18 June 2007 21:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Walker Sorry agreeing A (Must preview response, must preview response)
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#21 Posted : 19 June 2007 05:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Oh well, there is at least two of us then. Take it easy CFT
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