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Posted By David c Wilson The airport authority has banned smoking for the fire service airside. They have offered no alternative except counselling & patches. They have said you do not drink alcohol for 12 hours, do not smoke! Because of response times, these crews cannot go landside even for one minute whilst on duty. Surely this is no solution, it is yet again giving H&S a bad name - can they discriminate like this?
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Posted By Rob Yuill If you're talking airside as in aircraft movement areas I'm suprised the ban wasn't in place before.
Or are you talking about non-aircraft areas?
Rob
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Posted By David c Wilson Hi Rob, Yes, there are lots of areas where you are a sufficient distance from the aircraft. You can have a training ground with 30 foot flames but you cannot smoke!
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Posted By Richie H Without a thorough understanding of the situation it is difficult to make a fair appraisal of the situation. However it is dissappointing that they have not bothered to communicate the specific reasoning of why you are unable to smoke. Nothing worse than forcing a policy without employee consultation me thinks! Perhaps a misunderstanding of the new smoking policy? I would seek clarification for the reasoning behind the decision and try negotiate a solution, pre-empting their safety concerns with your own control measures may help?
Good luck
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Posted By David c Wilson Thank you Richie, You are right about the lack of consultation! How do you think the smoking regs have been misinterpreted? They will not accept smoking airside - full stop after smoking for years! Each aircraft is emitting exhaust fumes of 1350 c plus, yet we are not allowed to smoke. We have said we will drive to a gate and smoke landside with the vehicle standing by, but there must be a better solution?
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Posted By Stephen Ward Dave I think you missed the point. Its a health issues. The argument about the aircraft exhaust temperature is a non starter. It does not kill hundreds of workers per year through passive smoking.
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Posted By David c Wilson Thank you Stephen, I am in fact a non smoker and can't wait for the smoking ban in public places! I just want an area for my colleagues who choose to smoke to have a cigarette and not to be dictated to by people who cannot interpret regulations or be bothered to find a solution to the problem. I think it is everyones right to smoke if they wish to do so?
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Posted By David S Burt David
Sadly the response from Stephen is based on what appears is a campaign of mis-information based on non scientific evidence. There is little or no scientific evidence to support the claims of pressure groups that the ban will reduce an estimated 600 premature deaths a year. Further debate on this matter has already taken place on the members discussion forum.
The point you raise about the emissions from the aircraft is extremely valid and has the potential to cause more significant harm than the potential health effects related to passive smoking particularly where this would occur in an open area within an airport.
Now back to the real issue i.e. can an employer make such a ban? The answer is quite simple YES they can because any employer always has been able to rightly set their own rules.
I work for a number of different organisations where No Smoking on their premises has been the norm for a number of years and this is accepted by all employees including smokers. Note No Legislation Required
The approach that is being taken by your employer is neither rational or a sensible way to develop and foster good industrial relations.
Consultation with employees is always a better way forward.
Will your employers draconian rule make the smokers give up or stop them from sneaking a crafty puff airside? Anyone who believes that does not understand smokers. A more rational approach is to accept that some people choose to and will continue to smoke regardless of the rules or the law.
A Reasonable and responsible employer will recognise this and make appropriate provisions for all members of their workforce including smoker and non smokers.
The irony of all this is that while it is recognised that there is the need for anti-discriminatory legislation to protect people at work, smokers are now seen as third class citizens could well be left with no protection or consultation rights.
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Posted By David c Wilson Thank you very much David, I will with your permission, use your response when i speak to management next.
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