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#1 Posted : 03 July 2007 20:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By R James
I would like to know how other organisations check/vet the health and safety competence of their reactive maintenance contractors on works which fall outside of CDM regulations (non notifiable) before engaging the contractors services.

e.g registered with Constructionline, request contractors H&S policy

This information is for my dissertation which is to produce a checklist to ensure clients have an audit trail to show they assessed the contrators H&S competence.

If you have any useful information, check list, policies or procedures please email me on rele_james@hotmail.com.

If you would be interested in taking part in a related survey, please leave your details or email.
Sources and information will not be published with out your expressed permission.

Thanks for your time
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#2 Posted : 03 July 2007 23:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Google "national contractor assessment schemes"?
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#3 Posted : 04 July 2007 06:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
What survey R James? Who, what, why, when?

CFT
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#4 Posted : 04 July 2007 06:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Treat contractors as you would treat your employees/friends.

RA, SSOW, Audits UA/US. Where necessary give them a good kicking.

Or chuck them out. (I've found that the third floor window is quite effective) (But maybe you only want to go to the second floor)(a bit more humanitarian) First floor is considered to be rather soft and not really long-term effective

Merv
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#5 Posted : 04 July 2007 08:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
As an alternative to Merv you could/should be looking at how to apply the ACOP material under CDM07. There is no lower standard of competence because the work is not notifiable. The information is guidance however not definitive. I personally think it has missed a number of tricks in the material.

That said the content of the posting suggests to me that like many clients and contractors the identification of competence has been tied to having systems, training and accident history. The actual ability of the organisation to demonstrate that it remains competent throughout the work is still omitted from the thinking that goes on. Systems such as constructionline merely assess if a system is there, not whether it is functional and implemented.

Bob
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#6 Posted : 04 July 2007 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
The actual ability of the organisation to demonstrate that it remains competent throughout the work is still omitted from the thinking that goes on.

Bob, I'm not in disagreement with this sentence but how in a practical way can this be met?
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#7 Posted : 04 July 2007 09:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Peter

It is actually about the organisation setting appropriate benchmarks of performance and appropriate monitoring against those benchmarks. It also involves an assessment of behaviours and attitudes exhibited by the individuals employed by the organisation.

As to putting the system into effect that is often the sweat of my brow:-)It will be interesting to see if the poster can define something in his/her dissertation.

Bob
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#8 Posted : 04 July 2007 09:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murphy
Rele

I have e-mailed you my contact details.

John
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#9 Posted : 04 July 2007 10:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By R James

CFT

The survey will depend on the outcome of the results I receive and information I collect.

Bob
Yes my checklist will be for the initial assessment of contractors, I think monitoring through the contract is a whole different ball game, though any suggestions will be appreciated as I will be recommending this area for further study.

P.s I am a "her"
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#10 Posted : 04 July 2007 13:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
RJ

The problem is with your cut off point is that how contractors manage the competence of their workforce and the implementation of their systems is key to deciding if they are competent. Any checklist has to include questions concerning actions to manage competence during work.

Bob
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