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#1 Posted : 04 July 2007 16:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald PC wishes to carry out a task and outlines this in his MS and RA. The RA and MS is compliant but the coordinator refuses to "approve" the MS as he thinks there is a better way. PC feels this better way is just another possible way but not the one their experience tells them is best. How much leverage does the CDM coordinator have in this case. Is this happening to others. ?
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#2 Posted : 04 July 2007 16:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Actually none when the job is on site. Advisory only when in pre construction period. I am afraid some CDMCs are misunderstanding their role and powers Bob
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#3 Posted : 04 July 2007 19:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT With Bob 100% CFT
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#4 Posted : 04 July 2007 20:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Caboche Agree with Bob and CFT - the CDMC has no authority to tell the PC how to run his site - that is solely their responsibility. However - fly in the ointment - are the conditions of contract, which may stipulate that the CDMC can audit the site against the CPHASP on behalf of the client to allow them to dischartge their duties unser Reg 9(2). It should not give the CDMC the right to tell the PC how to run his site and I agree that it seems like the CDMC is exceeding their authority.
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#5 Posted : 04 July 2007 21:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch 1 Hi Peter. Sounds like one of the old PSs who wanted to have more power, and is now trying to overegg the role of the CDM-C. CDM2007 has generated a lot of hot air, much of it from people with commercial interests, but in reality makes little difference, particularly if one considers the implied responbilities pre CDM2007 under HSWA and MHHSW Regs 1999. p
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#6 Posted : 04 July 2007 22:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By MF It would be interesting if the CDM C were to approve his version of the RA/MS, where would he stand regarding liability should an incident occur? We know the answer, but how keen would he be to approve RA/MS's then?
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#7 Posted : 05 July 2007 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis The contract may give powers of supervision and approval but it is not then under the role of CDM-C but rather as Client Project manager. Let us keep the distinctions totally clear otherwise everyone will end up doing the job of everybody and nobody wil do the job somebody was meant to do. Bob
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