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Posted By Taff2
Old chestnut - but I can't find the definitive answer, if a GP states that a colleague (H&S Manager)is absent with work related depression / stress, is this reportable?
He's been off for 3.5 months, only been informed by GP that it is work-related
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Posted By Simon Walsh Grad IOSH
I had the same question a few months ago, and was reliably informed by HSE contact that stress is not RIDDOR reportable.
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Posted By Taff2
Many thanks - I did a search on the forum & ahve now seen the consensus.
SORTED
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Posted By Stephen D. Clarke
Recent HSE Incident Contact Centre advice is that general stress is not reportable under RIDDOR but Post Traumatic Shock which results from an incident at work is reportable if it is associated with an over three day absence
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Posted By David G C
i believe that stress is known as a condition not a disease so not reportable.....though i stand to be corrected
Regards
David
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Posted By Rachael Palmer
This is the response received from the HSE Infoline October 2006 following a query on whether "Stress" is reportable.
The info line replied as follows:
The following information has been provided by the Reporting of Injuries,
Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences (RIDDOR) Operations Unit, Bootle.
Stress is not reportable at all, not even as an over 3 day injury, because
it is a mental state.
Shock on the other hand is reportable because it is a physical condition.
Shock is suffered from an incident (eg: physical attack, emotional shock
from witnessing an incident etc) and could be reportable. This can be
called post traumatic shock / stress. As long as the injury (time loss)
relates to an actual event the incident may be reportable.
The HSE have produced publications concerning stress in the workplace, see
below:
MISC686 Working together to reduce stress at work: a guide for employees
Free for a single copy
INDG406 Tackling stress- the Management Standards approach, a short guide
Free for a single copy
Real solutions, real people: a manager's guide to tackling work-related
stress, ISBN 0717627675, £25.00
This is a pack which contains
* One copy of Real solutions, real people: a manager's guide to tackling
work-related stress (guidance book)
* One copy of HSG218, Tackling work-related stress: a manager's guide
* One copy of INDG341, Tackling work-related stress: a guide for employees
(free leaflet)
* One A2 action planner
* Six prompt cards
* Eighteen case study cards
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Posted By Chris Jerman
I've been there too. It's nuts. Look, the idea of RIDDOR is that it's a way of keeping employers honest by saying "If you damage someone, we need to know so that we can investigate and spot trends across your sector - it's called turning lagging data into a pro-active campaign"
So when we said in our 2508, "Sorry we've been a bit careless and someone's ended up a bit sad and doesn't want to come to work anymore" the HSE said 'that's not what RIDDOR is for - sorry no you can't report that. OK, stress is generic term (bit like RSI) for mental injury like shock, anxiety, depression etc. But what are they trying to say - we don't recognise stress as an injury? So why all the fuss about management standards the? I asked the HSE where they got their figures from for stress absence, because sitting around the table with a dozen major employers we weren't seeing that many genuine cases - they asked what we meant by 'genuine'. We all responded that stress has become the new 'bad back'. "Can I have next week off?" response "No". Next thing; sick note for stress. It transpired that the HSE's figures were based purely on accepting the number of tickets that GPs had written out for WORK related stress. No follow up as to how many turned out to be genuine (or even caused by work) had been made. So, all the more surprising that they won't accept a RIDDOR for stress. They actually told us that we could put it in a letter if we wanted to notify us.
I need a lie down.
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Posted By Bennie
Hi - I am reliably advised that if some one has an accident they have 3 years from the date of the accident, or it going into accident book to raise a compensation claim. Fact!
However, I am also reliably informed if they claim against stress then the time limit is extended to 6 years.
I stand to be corrected if my source is wrong - can anyone verify?
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