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Posted By Donn
Afternoon,
during a recent health and safety meeting we had at our office. a question was put about this use of a fire register and a roll call after a fire drill.
Under the new order are fire registers still required?
Is it sufficient that fire wardens have checked the building on exiting it or does there still need to be a roll call and a daily fire register?
many thanks
Donna
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Posted By tomahawk
I don't believe that the change in legislation has made any difference to what you have to do. You have always had to provide a safe means of escape for everyone and be able to account for everyone at the assembly point. The difference now is that you have to do your own risk assessment and not rely on the fire certificate. In my experience whatever system you use for counting staff - it ain't foolproof. It's not worth trying to invent a 100% system for accounting for staff because there isn't one !There will always be reasons why staff have 'forgotten' to sign in / out or have popped across to another building etc when the alarm goes off. Depends on your business but in a low risk office type situation - better to concentrate on not having a fire in the first place rather than what to do if one happens which is unlikely if you've done your fire risk assessment correctly and mitigated all of the risks.
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Posted By Tony abc jprhdnMurphy
Donn
Use your risk assessment
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Some premises are better suited to the roll-call approach (eg schools) whereas others are well served by fire wardens reporting areas for which they are responsible as evacuated. The ideal approach would be using both systems - but it's going to be down to the nature, occupancy and use of the premises and the fire risk assessment as to how persons can best be accounted for and information given to the attending FRS as to whether persons may be present and, if so, who, where and in what numbers.
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Posted By Carl Currie
I would say that best practice would be to have a record of who is on the premises at all times.
I'm assuming your primary workplace is an office judging by your post.
Do staff sign in when they get to work and out when they leave?
Do all visitors sign in when on the premises and out when they go?
If the answer is yes to both, you already have a fire register.
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Posted By tomahawk
If only things were so simple ! Our staff regularly move from floor to floor and to other builings in the complex. To suggest they sign in and out everytime they move may seem the way - but it ain't going to happen. hence you 'don't have a register'. All you can do is have a system which attempts to account for the majority, most of the time. No fire officer will turn up and not bother to search a building just because you say there's no one in it - they know the limitations of registers only too well.
Anyway - a much bigger issue - geting disabled people out of high rise office blocks ! We have evacu chairs but has anyone tried getting someone down 18 floors in one ?? I'm still in recovery !
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Posted By Carl Currie
hmm, ok tomahawk. In your environment, how about a swipe system? surely your colleagues can find the strength to raise there arm to place a card or key fob at the door before leaving or entering? Also good for security reasons.
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Posted By Peter Leese
Same problem.
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