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#1 Posted : 03 August 2007 14:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer
Many many times I read on these forums people who state " Not wishing to re-invent the wheel" as part of a query.

Could someone please inform a simple chap like me how to re-invent the wheel and if there are any special qualities you need to do so.

Thank you

Ted
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#2 Posted : 03 August 2007 14:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seano
Nice of you to have spoke your mind, but i don't wheely know.
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#3 Posted : 03 August 2007 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
I suppose the first step towards reinvention may be decontruction for which you would start with a concept of wheeliness.
Deconstruction is a term in contemporary philosophy, literary criticism, and the social sciences, denoting a process by which the texts and languages of Western philosophy (in particular) appear to shift and complicate in meaning when read in light of the assumptions and absences they reveal within themselves. Jacques Derrida coined the term in the 1960s, and proved more forthcoming with negative, rather than a pined-for positive, analyses of the school.(Wikipedia)

Gilly;)

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#4 Posted : 03 August 2007 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Left handed spanner, tartan paint and a wheelie good wheel invention tool with a circular attachement
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#5 Posted : 03 August 2007 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Dont forget to put any invention waste in a wheelie bin!
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#6 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Wilkinson
On a similar thread, has anyone actually sucked an egg, let alone taught their grandmothers how to do it?
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#7 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Ted, the hub of your question relies upon those on the outer rim understanding the need to bring back into existence something that someone else has already created. Those tired of the irreversible tread of progress prefer to throw a spoke into the wheel and avoid re-inventing it. To cap it all, pumping of knowledge is often also involved.
Attributes required include being under pressure and often but not always full of air or, less frequently these days, one can sometimes come across solid versions. Also it is important to be able to adopt a shape consistent with a continuous curved line, the points of which are always the same distance away from a fixed central point. Thus ensuring that you will inevitably end up where you started from:):):)
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#8 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Having deconstructed wheeliness one can then re-define the wheel into whatever concept you wish it to be thus the wheel is not round but actually square and the square is actually the thing that rolls easily. Thus a re-invented wheel must be square and thus more efficient than any round wheel which is actually square and does not roll easily.

Moral

Re-invention can often be better honed than the original!!! It is therefore better not to supply current wheels as they are likely to be less efficient at their task on your car. Of course for me, round wheels are the best thing since sliced bread - but that is another story.

Bob
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#9 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Bob , I find round wheels on my car are a touch more effective than sliced bread as well. Did the findings of your risk assessment for the use of sliced bread play any part in your decision?
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#10 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
But that is only because I have defined round wheels as easily movable - others may define round as actually square and thus square is best for them. If we break free of Aristotlean logic altogether and recognise that A can be both A and Not A at the same time then round and square cease to have a meaning as all wheels will be round and square at the same time.

As for sliced bread I do not like occasional red stains on the bread so choose to buy the knifeless variety!:-)

Bob
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#11 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seano
Do you think it would be possible to re-invent Friday? Or do you think wheel always be like this?
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#12 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
I suppose a conceptual reconstrution following deconstruction might require the rim to be in the centre and the hub at the circumference. This would require some degree of distortion of the space/time continuum or possibly the adoption of a tauroid wheel.

Gilly ;)
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#13 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
Bob,
Could it be that the occasional red stains are raspberry jam? Yum Yum.

Gilly;)
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#14 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins
You think it's easy to invent the wheel do you? OK clever dick, you tell me what colour it should be then!

(with apologies to a well-known radio programme)
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#15 Posted : 03 August 2007 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
Sorry that should have been toroid (so as not to confuse it with a load of bull.
Anyway if we combine the toroid wheel with Bob,s raspberry jam we get a jam donut -- yum yum yum!

Gilly;)
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#16 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By bob safe
I've invented thousands of things, wheels amongst them, only thing is, someone did it before me and got a patent - shame that.
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#17 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Time to go, the glass is running low.
So:
We’ll meet again,
Don’t know where, don’t know when.
But I know we’ll meet again some sunny day.

Maybe next friday the sun will shine again
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#18 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By bob safe
Friday afternoons wheelie ought to be better than this
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#19 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer
They Did but alas safe Robert I knew them so well.

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#20 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
When did these forums become a joke?
How often do we see this sort of trash?
Even now important issues are supassed by this topic
Everyone must have too much time on their hands

Lets all just get back to work ey?

Des
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#21 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seano
Chill Des, just a bit of fun on a Friday afternoon. Whats wrong with that?
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#22 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
Maybe Des thinks we're out of order - a case of putting Descarte before the horse.

Gilly;)
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#23 Posted : 03 August 2007 16:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Look, it's Friday (I think) Maybe another G&T will do it.

Yes, I have sucked an egg. My granny said to make a small hole at the bottom and a larger hole at the top. Then suck.

It's quite nice actually. If you don't worry about the salmonella.

Merv

I prefer them poached. Or coddled.
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#24 Posted : 03 August 2007 17:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
How about little steak tartare Merv?

Also maybe look a little more closer at my post previously and you can see I am actually in the friday spirit after all :-)

Maybe a little to subtle

Des

Home time!
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#25 Posted : 03 August 2007 17:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer
Descarte before the horse. very good but he does have a good sense of humour.

Merv
my girlfriend prefers her eggs fertile.

regards

Ted
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#26 Posted : 03 August 2007 17:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Des, at least I was impressed by the "wheels within wheels".

Des Carte wheels, a perfect finish to the journey home.

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#27 Posted : 03 August 2007 19:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Ted,

please wear the appropriate PPE. Don't leave finger prints.

Is it still Friday ?

5 minutes to the "poisson en parcehment avec herbes, beure et vin blanc'"

See you'all Monday.

Merv (cheers and a slight hic)(it's the G&T)
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