Posted By GARRY WIZZ I not aware of any MUST requirement to forward the safety file beyond the client. With the info you have provided I would consider I have two options, a) Give file to the client and let them do as they see fit. Not my problem approach. b) make available an edited file. Not sure that I would be keen on passing on some of the data in my current file...i.e. names, phone numbers etc garry

Posted By Lee Mac Andy, As the saying goes "a little knowledge in the wrong hands can be a dangerous weapon." H&S File does not go to the purchaser, I guess this purchaser, has heard about "CDM" and has got his/her facts a completely muddled. My advice would be for your Client to ensure that all M&E drawings are included as part of the handover pack for the purchaser as is common practice. Lee

Posted By Robert K Lewis Andy Developers/Housebuilders do have a responsibility to pass the relevant parts of the H&S information contained in the H&S File to the purchasers of domestic property. It is generally called the buyers pack and the NHSBC provide useful guidance on what is required. Drawings, where they convey necessary structural information not obvious to a competent person can be necessary. The important aspects are often loadbearing and load transmission charecteristics, this includes the foundations potentially. Bob

Posted By CFT Robert I must stop this practice but I agree with you again. Either the home owner covers O&M at work and thinks it would be a good idea, or simply requires the 'home buyer' pack which will detail certain levels of information; quite sensible really as I would want to know where the fixtures and fittings came from in case I wanted to add, replace etc. CFT

Posted By cathal Hi Andy Client's duties under CDM Regs Para 17(2)states were a safety file relates to more than 1 project, site, or structure, or where it includes other related information, the client shall ensure that information relating to each site or structure can be easily identified. The above would relate to Notifiable projects.and we as cdm'c would provide selected information in a home owner pack in the form of a guide to running in your new home relating to individual property'swhich is necessary for drying & venting internal works.Marked up site plan showing buried services,boiler operationetc However most of our domestic sites would however be inspected by NHBC or Zurich 10 year guarantee and provision would be made for this to be slotted into the pack. Under the terms and conditions of the NHBC guarantee They have included an updated Home information Pack (H.I.P)updated 15/06/07 for 4 bedroomed homes. The information required will be SAP assessment calculations under current Building control regs & predicted energy assessment for HIP. Upon completion of new build homes on 1st January 2008 Building Regs will require builders to provide an energy performance certificate EPC for second hand homes. NHBC can sort this out (competitivley priced) www.nhbcbuilder.co.uk check website for more details.

Posted By Lee Mac Without going into too much detail Yep, CDM2007 is to do with the key personnel associated with the construction process i.e. Client, CDM-C, Designers, PC, Contractors and how the communication flows smoothly and everyone is competent to perform their tasks. NHBC does make sure that the project is being built according to plan which meets their standards and they sign off the completed build if it is fit for handover. What the purchaser receives in the handover pack is down to the Client's & CDM-C's requirements. Hope this helps, Lee

Posted By AndyF Hi Everyone Thanks for your responses. Your information has been very useful. Andy F