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Is an industrial sack barrow lifting equipment?
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Posted By Adam
Hi any LOLER experts out there? particularly from the HSE.
Is an industrial Sack Barrow, i.e one that can lift 150-250 KG Classified as lifting equipment under LOLER? If so why?
All responses greatly received.
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Posted By Dave Daniel
Absolutely not!!!!!!!!
What "Lifting elements" would need "Through examination". The handles?????!!!!! It transports. It does not lift.
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Posted By garyh
I think that it is work equipment and so comes under PUWER.
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Posted By Kevin D Forbes
PUWER
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Posted By David A Cooper
No, but loading it probably comes under the Manual Handling Regs
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Posted By Les Welling
PUWER
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Posted By CHELSKI
Hi chaps think that you are mising the point here. A sack barrow does require you to lift the load as when you tip it back the load is lifted from the floor, so technically fulfills the term of "lifting",thus I believe it is lifting equipment,(answering this under my work log in details). If anyone disagrees with this please tell me why.
Whilst I understand the requirements of PUWER, I am not 100% convinced that a Sack Barrow should be inspected according to PUWER hence my question.
Many thanks
Adam
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Posted By ddraigice
The answer is in the ACoP.
The load does not substantially leave the ground therefore it is not a lifting operation or lifting equipment.
The guidance says:
"The regs are aimed primarily at the type of equipment which was covered by previous lifting legislation, i.e. cranes. lifts and hoists, chains, ropes, slings, shackles and eyebolts....
Not covered, for example, is winching a load on level ground as the load does not leave the ground"
So no it doesn't. It's PUWER as already suggested.
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Posted By Dave Daniel
Chelski:
This is rubbish. You should be well aware of the mess that LOLER created in failing to properly define lifting equipment. If you aren't, find out.
If I wanted I could make out a technical case that lifting a teaspoon full of sugar to sweeten my tea is a "lifting operation" involving "lifting equipment" (the spoon) but any court would laugh you out of the door. A sack truck lacks features key to "proper" lifting equipment, such as a lifting mechanism. It's primary purpose to to convey, not to lift.
Read the ACOP carefully. Perhaps you should ask the insurers how many companies they visit to carry out "thorough examinations" of sack trucks at???????
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Posted By Glen Coe
I agree with PUWER for the barrow and Manual Handling Regs for the operation of the barrow. It is a mechanical handling aide not lifting equipment. I do not believe it could be considered as an Lifting appliance due to its simplicity, as is the crowbar, nor a lifting accessory as it does not attach the load to a lifting appliance. Also consider the lowly wheelbarrow would require load testing and LOLER training.
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Posted By alex mccreadie
This one could go on for ever . I am sure LOLER and the ACOPS rule the sack truck out. Common sense must prevail as stated a teaspoon then a shovel for ground workers then an excavator where do you stop?
PUWER and a basic inspection should suffice.
My Opinion
Alex
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Posted By ITK
Absolutely, 100%, cast iron, NOT LOLER.
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