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#1 Posted : 18 August 2007 18:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By adam mckellar
hi everybody, can anyone advise me on the exact requirement for fire detection and alarm systems in a small public house? many thanks.
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#2 Posted : 20 August 2007 00:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Adam

In the absence of any response thus far I will comment, although not a fire specialist. I doubt anyone can advise of the 'exact requirement for fire detection and alarm systems in a small public house.' Reason being that all premises will have to be inspected and assessed on an individual basis. I would advise getting a fire risk assessment conducted as per RRFO and take it from there.

That said, the typical things you would consider in a public house are: fire suppression systems, smoke detectors, fire fighting equipment and means of escape.

Regards

Ray
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#3 Posted : 20 August 2007 04:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
The only pub I have ever inspected (black horse ? St Albans, very close to Verulamian, downhill from the abbey, not far from the Fighting Cocks) Had the spirits store in the cellar under the wooden staircase.

Lovely pub, very good beer, but a bit dodgy on fire prevention.

A heat/smoke detector in each room, two in the larger bars. Training of staff to get everyone out to an assembly point. And to call the fire brigade.

Do I hear Last Orders ?

Merv
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#4 Posted : 20 August 2007 08:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert smith
Good morning,
I am a H & S advisor for the fire service, i must point out that i am not an operational fire-fighter.
If you get onto the West midlands Fire Service web Page and look in Arson Task Force you will find a document titled Keep your Business in Business (KYBIB)
This document can be downloaded free and explains what is required to comply with the
RRO (FS) order, the forms are also there for your RA.
If you visit the DCLG web page there are
several documents, each dealing with particular industries, these are downloadable or can be
purchased for £11.00 each.
i hope this helps if you reqire futher info
please let me know.
SMUDGE
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#5 Posted : 20 August 2007 08:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood
Statistically (always dangerous), fires in public houses tend to start after the building has closed. The major risk to life is then to the occupants who live on site. Pay particular attention to how they would escape in a fire. If necessary look at installing detection in the owners/staff accomodation escape ways. look at the structural fire integrity of the escape stairs for the staff.

The important thing is to adopt an 'holistic' approach to your fire risk assessment and not to loose sight that this is a 'life safety' assessment. After you have assessed the safety of the owner/occupier then move on to the safety of the public in the remainder of the building. Look at the means of escape for them, is it just one or two rooms? Then look at all other areas such as spirit stores, kitchens etc. A lot of fires occur in kitchens especially where the fryers are, so it may be an idea to fit a water mist or wet chemical fire extinguishing system in these areas. In regards to the question about alarms, think life safety and the need to get out of the building. If they would help due to the building being complex, then your FRA will flag that up.
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