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#1 Posted : 24 August 2007 12:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom Does anyone know of any published guides to accident photography they would recommend? John.
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#2 Posted : 24 August 2007 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter John If chain of custody is an issue, see this Home Office document: http://hosdb.homeoffice....ations/docs/digimpro.pdf Paul
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#3 Posted : 24 August 2007 14:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom Paul, No, I'm thinking of technical quality of pictures. Something that gives inexpert picture takers guidance in getting good images. Guidance on simple things like lighting, composition & common mistakes. John.
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#4 Posted : 24 August 2007 15:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Grace Jom, I'm no expert - and most of my accident photos were taken with a Polaroid - so you can tell how long ago it was!. Nowadays I just photgraph work activity for training presentation. I find that relatively easy a with digital camera. I would say that lighting may not be something you Can control. I'd advise taking sufficient "general shots" to make sure someone not familiar with the location, plant, equipment etc can put everything in context. People make good markers to indicate scale. Then gradually take shots that "lead in" to the exact location of accident. Remember that these will be no use with the previous ones - because whilst you'll be able to position/orientate everything others outside your business/firm industry etc may not be able to. Remember as you gradually take shots closer to the point of accident it will be important to include a "scaling device" - ruler is best but anything that indicates scale is just as useful e.g. pen, soft drink can, coin etc. Finally make sure images are dated and that each has a description. Hope this is of some use.
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#5 Posted : 27 August 2007 12:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom Thanks, Phil. Useful comments, indeed. I've found an annoying aspect of some photos published in investigation reports is over or under exposure. That can ruin the detail of the object of interest. This might be a diffucult problem for non-experts to avoid. Do you have any tips on how to use the digital camera to avoid this? Do you carry a laptop so you can view the pics before leaving the site. Would that give you the chance to retake some? John.
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#6 Posted : 28 August 2007 08:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Grace Jom, I usually have to rely on what can be viewed on the camera screen - not the best plan I know. I would guess that downloading onto a laptop and viewing on the big screen might be a luxury!! I'd suggest taking a selection - with flash on/off in a hope that something works out "OK". I would resist the temptation to alter pictures using a photo processing package although I do correct exposure issues when using pics for a presentation. One way round that could be to adjust exposure or contrast but to make this clear by placing altered image alongside the original. That way it can be confirmed that nothing has been added/taken away. The "airbrushing effect" is perhaps the one drawback with digital images - and for accident investigation pictures perhaps you need to get others to verify images immediately after they have been taken e.g. a statement or similar. Hope this helps. Phil
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#7 Posted : 19 September 2007 22:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Langston Hi Jom, Have you been on an accident investigation course. This is part of the syllabus of the IOSH accident investigation course Best wishes, Ian Langston
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#8 Posted : 20 September 2007 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By JEB One thing to need to do is have a size reference in a photograph, e.g. tape measure in the photo alongside a hole in the floor.
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#9 Posted : 20 September 2007 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom Ian, No, I haven't done an investigation course. Sometimes published photos lack clarity and I've wondered if it's just simple matters not been checked. Can digital cameras pose a hazard of ignition in certain workplace environments? i.e, I imagine common models are not intrinsically safe. John.
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#10 Posted : 20 September 2007 15:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan IN answer to your question, I recommend: Investigative Photography, written by John Wenzel and published last month year by ASSE. You can order it online from www.asse.org
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#11 Posted : 21 September 2007 13:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom Kieran, Thanks for that. It looks like a good text. Cost is US$82. They are holding a 90 minute "webinar" on 26 Sept. I gather this will be a webcast seminar with the author. John.
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#12 Posted : 21 September 2007 13:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Yes, John though you could buy a couple of copies of the book for the price of the webinar! (I took the advantage of paying for the transatlantic postage to order a title on behaviour safety which is much more expensive, even secondhand, on Amazon). What I liked about Wenzel's text is his chapter on sketching before you photography - it makes you think through the angles you want to include in any shots. As I specialise in musculoskeletal disorders, this is nececessary for anyone who's not comfortable with at least A level mathematics (for the calculus involved in the biomechanics of ergonomic interventions about MSD risk control). If you or others want to exchange ideas on safety photography, you're welcome to do so through kieran@simplyenabling.com
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#13 Posted : 21 September 2007 14:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By jom Kieran, I looked at the website. What do you mean by "safety photography"? Is this different to "accident photography"? Is it photography of a normal workplace, rather than an accident scene? John.
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#14 Posted : 21 September 2007 14:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan John As an ergonomist dedicated to user-centred design of work and workplaces, I use the expression 'safety photography' to refer to recording interfaces which present controlled or uncontrolled hazards at work. Part of my interest as an ergonomist is to encourage Safety Professionals as well as HR, Facilities and Quality Management specialists to recognise how designing 'work and workplaces' offer scope for joint and mutual benefit through collaboration; and that ergonomics and photography can offer useful contributions to how they create value.
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