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#1 Posted : 05 September 2007 15:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap
How are these worked out? Is it accident/hours worked X 10'000.

Thanks
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#2 Posted : 05 September 2007 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Julian Wilkinson
Hi Toecap

Number of injuries x 10,000

Total number of hours worked


for info

Incident Rate

number of injuries x 1,000

Ave number of employed during period


Regards

Julian
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#3 Posted : 05 September 2007 15:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Julian Wilkinson
Sorry AFR's should be x 100,000 not 10k
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#4 Posted : 05 September 2007 15:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap
Thanks. Got a bit confused
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#5 Posted : 05 September 2007 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Waldram
I suggest it's much easier for a non-specialist to understand if you quote rates per 100 persons per year. Most people know what 100 people look like, but havn't a clue about hours.

HSE quote national rates per 100,000 people, which is also far too large a group for anyone to visualise - but you'll note that the resulting rates are ~500-5000 ish, i.e. divide by 1000 and you get the number of injuries per year per 100 people as 0.5-5, which all can visualise (and decide whether it seems acceptable, or not).

Incidentally, 100 people work about 200,000 hours per year (but few organisations record actual hours worked in today's world) and the US AFR rate is per 200,000 not the 100,000 traditionally used in UK; many global organisations use the US calculation. All this is FAR too involved for the average line manager to think about - so some of us in IOSH have been working for a while to get the "per 100 people per year" approach used more widely. What is the point of OSH professionals generating results data that means nothing to the average punter? - it just confirms to him/her that we don't live in the real world!
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#6 Posted : 05 September 2007 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zyggy Turek
I fully support Ian's stance & that is exactly what we do in my organisation!

In fact, a number of similar organisations (Local Authorities in the NW)benchmark the number of RIDDOR reportables per 100 employees as we are more confident in capturing these types of accidents.

These are much more meaningful to our senior managers.

Zyggy.
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#7 Posted : 05 September 2007 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
I like the reasoning Ian, it has caused me problems in the past too.

We have discussed it and similar before, see this thread, which I still refer too:

http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=1&thread=12595
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