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#1 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By MICHAEL T
We have engineers who have to access flat roof areas above 5 metre to service equipment.
They need to go up there very 'infrequently' and usually for short duration.
As regards training in the use of fall arrest, etc.. the regs say "adequate training specific to the operations envisaged, including rescue procedures". On the other side of the business we have a team of highly trained riggers. I was going to get one of these to do the training but I am being told that it has to be a recognised training course for 'insurance purposes'. I am not convinced.
Please advise
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Mike
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#2 Posted : 20 September 2007 20:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil
Personally I would send them on a harness course. The riggers may be experienced but have they completed a train the trainer course etc..

Also, would they be willing to sign a certificte showing the persons trained are now capable and be willing to accept the legal ramifications?
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#3 Posted : 21 September 2007 07:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bruce Sutherland
Michael

Have a look at the ACOP for Fork Lift Trucks - there is some good stuff in it about how to put together in house training and audit trails.

You would need to look at why the trainer was competent to do it - what the training will cover and how you have demonstrated that it has been understood - with something as practical as this it would simply be a matter of the people demonstrating that they can do it. One tip with people who may not be "trainers" is to get them to "help" with the course - ie you do the standing up bit and they then do the technical part sitting down - it is normally the standing up and talking that scares people not the putting across the information. You also have to be prepared to accept that you got it wrong and that the in house training did not work and then go outsource

Cheers

Bruce
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#4 Posted : 21 September 2007 09:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Garry Homer
If they will never be required to be close to a 'non-protected' edge, we have a 2m rule, then the usual climbing and harness work training is not required.

Designate the staff for 'roof access only' and set down limitations on what type of roof and where they can go. All other restrictions that apply to climbing are still necessary, snow, ice, daylight etc. Special reference to unguarded weak roof structures, sky-lights, tripping hazards, RF sources, noxious fumes or pathogens. Wind speed is important, say 20 mph limit.

Telecomms have hundreds of people designated in this manner.

Garry
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#5 Posted : 21 September 2007 17:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Hinckley
Michael - I have emailed you directly on this - Regards Richard Hinckley
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