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#1 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen Pearson
Hi, This is my first time on the discussion forum so bear with me and be gentle.

I have been asked by my employer to undertake a fire risk assessment for a building we have not yet moved into. As it is just a shell, I can't quite see the benefit as there will be more fire hazards with furniture & people after we move in. I know I could do it twice but this seem like a waste of time. I have also been asked to comment on adequate signage / fire escape plans and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. Any advice welcome.

Thanks

H
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#2 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By stevehaigh
Think of every risk imaginable and then expand on them

Consider

ignition sources
fuel sources
evac plans
fire safety management system
COSHH
Staff - disabled??


Get some floor plans and locate the position of extinguishers and signage

etc etc
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#3 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helenp
Thanks

Is there somewhere that tells me how much and what type of signage there should be? I have searched the web but can't find anything useful. Do I need an escape plan on very floor or just at the bottom of the stairs?

H
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#4 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By JEB
HM Government have published guidance and its free to download at http://www.communities.g...ons/fire/firesafetyrisk2

I have found it to be very useful. You can also contact you local Fire Service for guidance.

John
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#5 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richie H
Hi Helen,

I think your employer is correct in their request for a fire risk assessment prior to occupation.

Persons occupying a new build are unlikely to be aware of all their escape routes, evacuation procedures, fire wardens and assembly points etc etc... therefore their safe means of escape could well be hindered and these issues need to be addressed in your initial fire risk assessment.

If you are aware of the future occupancy this will help your assessment and if not their are formulas to establish maximum occupancies for whatever your building is going to be used for.

I would hope that the fire safety signage should be suitable (if a new build) but this should also be reviewed in your assessment.

I recommend you have a look at the Fire Risk Assessment Guidance and even FRA templates on the website:

http://www.communities.g...iresafety/firesafetylaw/

If you need any further assistance just drop me an email.

Cheers & good luck
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#6 Posted : 20 September 2007 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By W. Findlay
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Have a look at BS 5588-12:2004 "Fire precautions in the design, construction and use of buildings - Part 12: Managing fire safety" and BS 5499-4:2000 "Safety signs, including fire safety signing".
If nothing else it will give you a good starting point.

Regards

W
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#7 Posted : 20 September 2007 11:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helenp
Many thanks to all of you for you assistance.

Regards

H
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#8 Posted : 20 September 2007 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
First thing I'd do is buy PAS 79:2005 from BSI
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#9 Posted : 20 September 2007 13:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister
Helen, you are in a privileged position. Planning appropriate fire arrangements at this stage is generally easier, less costly and more effective than attempting to retrofit. The purchasing decisions can be wrapped up in the overall project rather than being seen as expensive H&S costs.

Work in partnership with the project manager and you should be able to achieve a good result.
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