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#1 Posted : 24 September 2007 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Owen Needles Apologies if this kind of question has been answered before - i've searched the forums but there is so much there it's hard to wade through it all. We use 'S' hooks for holding items that go through our shot blast and powder coat paint line. They currently do not have a safe work load and i'm trying to arrange it. Can i arrange for testing of one hook (of each size)to confirm the SWL and then use that for all hooks made to that design. We use many hooks of nine different sizes and it would be costly to check everyone. I assumed it was not a problem to manufacture them in house aslong as it was tested externally. However i've read on an e-mail (bit of a word of mouth thing) that the company who uses them can not make them? Also I'd have thought that no CE mark would be required as there are no moving parts etc. Another problem i will have is how each hook can be individually marked for 6 monthly inspection when they get covered in paint. Any comments from people with experience in this area would be gratefully recieved. Regards Owen
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#2 Posted : 24 September 2007 17:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Owen, You can use "s" hooks that you produce in house. I agree with your suggestion that you get 1 of each checked and then ensure that all others are made to same standard, ie same gauge of wire, or grade of steel etc. If you can demonstrate that you control them adequately, ie control manufacture, dont overload them, operator checks them for deformation regularly, then you should be able to satisfy your insurance people or whoever inspects your lifting gear that you are complying. They certainly wont need a CE mark. Holmezy
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#3 Posted : 25 September 2007 17:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Owen Needles Many thanks for those comments very helpful. But can i ask - how do you know? I don't mean to sound disrespectful but i want to ensure i comply with legislation. I can't find any regulations to give me guidance. Owen
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#4 Posted : 26 September 2007 08:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Manufacture in house, external (type) testing and certification, shadow board for operators to assess deformation limits. Confirm acceptance with insurers.
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#5 Posted : 26 September 2007 11:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rich T I don't know if I have missed the point somewhere, but what is it that leads you to believe that these items would be subject to LOLER? To paraphrase the LOLER guidance, LOLER will not apply to equipment whose primary function is not lifting or lowering in the normally acepted sense. In this instance, the hangers are just to keep the work item off the ground in order to pass through your process. It is highly unlikely that they have to be classified as lifting equipment for the purposes of LOLER. We operate two powder coat plants and I would not dream of classifying the hangers under LOLER.
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#6 Posted : 26 September 2007 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch Agree with Rich T having managed paint and powder coating plant. My suggestion is based on good practise and would not hurt in the unfortunate event of an accident.
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#7 Posted : 26 September 2007 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob34 Agree with the above, I ensured that the equipment / accessories where suitable and robust enough to withstand the stresses and strains placed on them and we have internal controls for inspection / isolation. On a secondary note I would be interested in making contact with any others that have Powder Coating Lines, to benchmark and discuss best practice etc (Would you be interested Rich T / Mitch / Owen?) Rob34
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#8 Posted : 26 September 2007 14:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch No longer involved with painting/powder coating and wasn't into H&S then but if I can be of any assistance please do not hesitate to contact me direct.
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#9 Posted : 28 September 2007 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob34 OK, thanks Mitch. Owen, I have replied direct to your e-mail address. Anybody else out there that has a Powder Coating Line, feel free to e-mail. Rob34
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