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Posted By John Allen
Read the entire article.
As usual the Hate Mail jumps on the anti-safety bandwagon when the facts are actualy contained within their article -
1) somebody has already been killed
2) its only a temporary ban
3) it only refers to the less experienced
What won't they put an anti-safety spin on?
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Posted By Debbie S
What a very sad nation we are turning into!! And Health & Safety takes the blame again.
I bet that if you took into account the amount of cycles used and the mileage cycled over a 7 day week, divided by the number of accidents or incidents that happen to the bobbies, the lielihood of you having an accident will be extremely low!!
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Posted By Mitch
Makes you wonder though, what is the purpose of PCSO's? They can't ride bikes and can't swim (to save a young childs life!)
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Posted By Seano
I agree mitch. I think the diving into the swimming pool story is more about a personal decision. How many people would not jump in? I certainly would.
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Posted By John Allen
Another story the Mail (and other media) got wrong.
The child had already disappeared below the surface of the lake before the Community Officers got to the scene. The original 999 call had given the wrong location. Would two more fatalities have made things alright?
As all professional safety practitioners know the classic multiple fatality is when the rescuers also get into trouble - we wait to see if that was the scenario on the N Sea Standby vessel at the weekend
when 3 men died.
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Posted By Peter MacDonald
Eh, sorry...not a swimming pool. A dark, cold flooded quarry with a submerged body unseen from the surface. Have you ever tried pulling a clothed, unconscious person from deep water after exhausting yourself trying to find them? The boy who died could swim, so what caused him to drown and what makes you think it couldn't happen to you.
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith
Just to give you some idea of the risk of cycling, I posted this information back in September 2005.
1. The more cyclists there are our roads the safer cycling is. For example in the UK we cycle an average of 0.1 kilometres per person per day against 1.7 in Denmark and 3.0 in the Netherlands. In the UK there are 6 Cyclist Killed per 100 million kilometres; however that number is 2.3 in Denmark and 1.6 in the Netherlands.
2. The level of risk in terms of a cycling fatality also needs to be balanced against the potential gain in terms of life years. Analysis by the British Medical Association (BMA) have shown even that even in a hostile cycling environment such as in Britain, the benefits gained from regular cycling in terms of life years gained, outweighed the loss of life in cycling fatalities. (Hillman M 1994 Cycling towards health and safety) has calculated this to be a ratio of 20 years gained to one year lost.
3. Three in every four people in the UK population aren't active enough to protect themselves against illness such as heart disease, stroke, diabetes and some cancers. A regular cyclist enjoys a level of fitness of someone ten years younger than themselves, and has a life expectancy of two years above the average.
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Posted By Jean
Dear All
As a former Health and Safety Adviser in a large Constabulary, I was required to undertake and sign risk assessments relating to operational health and safety activities. Many forces now provide their PCSO's and Police Officers with dynamic risk assessment training. STOP! THINK!
Constabularies have the same responsibilities to their employees as any other organisation.
When the decision was made to provide police officers with bikes, my immediate advice to the then Deputy Chief Constable was that a thorough risk assessment should be undertaken in order to ensure that the appropriate training was provided.
However, even though I have been trained to drive a car, and consider myself competent. I have been hit twice by others who have also been deemed competent.
21 makes the PCSO younger than my youngest child. I suspect that removing the bikes may be bit of a knee jerk reaction, or perhaps the Chief Constable is simply trying to ensure that he is protecting his employees, while undertaking a review of the training, the risk assessment and the lessons to be learned from the incident.
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