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#1 Posted : 05 October 2007 13:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard_Sams
Can anyone tell me if sparks are created or sufficient heat generated when saw cutting concrete that would present a significant risk when carried out 5 to 10 metres from flammable gas bottles?
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#2 Posted : 05 October 2007 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy

Richard,

you shouldnt getting any sparks from cutting concrete unless it has metal rods in it for reinforcing purposes. The heat generated would be dispersed almost immediately, especially if you use water suppression. The main hazard will be dust, and silica dust inparticular.
If you do have metal in the concrete, the sparks will loose their energy very quickly, even so, I would keep the gas bottles covered or further away. Make sure there is no flammable material in the vicinity as this could be ignited by the sparks.
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#3 Posted : 05 October 2007 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
Surely, if the gas bottles are not leaking then any sparks will simply impact on the metal outer surface. It is highly unlikely that the heat from the sparks could heat up a bottle to the point where the gas pressure would cause it to burst. Thus the risk of fire must be limited to the effect of the sparks either on the paint on the bottles (unlikely) or on any other flammaable material nearby (much more probable).

Of course, if the bottles are leaking, or are connected to equipment with hoses that might be damaged by the sparks, then this is a different situation.

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#4 Posted : 08 October 2007 09:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve
Move the bottles. (Use 'churning' technique!)

Wet cutting techniques. (Water feed to blade)

Use a floor saw if possible (containment of ejection)



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#5 Posted : 08 October 2007 12:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Baynes
If the saw is elecrtrically powered, it will be generating some sparks internally at the brush - commutator interface. Some sparks exist fleetingly or are hidden beneath the blade, at the bottom of the cut. It is possible for gas to be pulled in there and be ignited. Just what is in those bottles? How many are there? What are they being used for? If they have a gas welding or burning torch attached and are being used, you are not adding much to the risk. If they contain hydrogen either stored or manifolded for supply elsewhere I would not go near them with any potential source of ignition. There are an infinite number of possibilities here. I suggest you contact the gas supplier who will be able to advise you as to the correct procedures to use.
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