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Posted By Graham Watson
Hi
Should there be hazard warning tape along the crack that has appeared in the floor of the Tate Modern?
Or are Art installations not subject to the HSAWA?
I assume the Artist would object on aesthetic grounds but as she says it's the actual divisions in society and the world that this piece reflects the hazard warning tape may emphasise her point.
Graham
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Posted By Colin Reeves
How about a nice big wrecking ball and get rid of it altogether, and all "art" galleries.
Philistine!
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Shouldn't be long before a child or partially sighted person comes a cropper.
I honestly thought this was a wind-up at first.
Maybe some brave EHO could wander in and ask to see the risk assessmnent?
Bizarre - some of us are being hammered by the HSE's slips and trips campaign, and yet this unguarded "art" is OK?
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Posted By Colin Reeves My first post was a bit tongue in cheek - but I have now looked at the Tate's site: http://www.tate.org.uk/m...orissalcedo/default.shtmI hope an HSE inspector has a love of art and visits - would be interesting to see his/her head explode at the contradiction of safety versus "art"! Colin
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Posted By Rob T
Conkers Bonkers!
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Posted By Farmer
Hope they got the insurers involved to assess any damage to the exhibit after 2 members of public fell it
This is brilliant training aid must use it for discussion on risk assessment
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze I think this is a very pertinent discussion to have. After all it's not long ago since two people were killed by a piece of art work that went wrong: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/...england/wear/5208460.stmYou cannot use "it's okay - because it's art" as an excuse to break the law surely?
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Posted By DavidW
Oh dear oh Dear!
Is it any wonder that Elf and Safety gets such a poor press when there are those that seriously consider putting barriers or tape along side this structure. If you visit the Tate Modern and this gallery in particular then no-one could possible say they were not aware that there is a blooming great crack in the floor. If ever there was a place to apply some "common sense" then this has to be it.
That's my view and I'll now done flack jacket and helmet ready for the barrage likely to come my way!
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Posted By Garry Adams
I understand that this piece of art depicts the crack within the cultures of the nations of the word ( mankind fractured, the haves and the have nots ).
Not only has it served it purpose by drawing attention to the global issues in general.
It has proved its point by dividing opinion within the H&S communitty.
Has the Whole word gone mad or is it me thats cracking up HE HE...thank crunchy its Friday.
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Posted By John Murphy
I thought it worth while asking Tate Modern about there approach to this issue. Below is there sane and sensible reply.
"thanks for your email and for the interest shown in how we are managing the risk in relation to Doris Salcedos installation , Shibboleth, I can assure you and our colleagues in IOSH that we have not entered into this project without fully considering all of the issues that would present themselves.
We involve our local authority public safety department, building control and our insurers at an early stage in the planning of all our major projects and continually update and review the challenges with them.
It is of course good to enter into lively debate about the whole area of safety and the arts, but both myself, my colleague XXXX XXXXXX, Tate's safety, health and environment advisor and the team at Tate Modern, have some experience in this specialist arena and do not take our responsibilities to the public, our staff or to our board of trustees lightly".
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Posted By safety medic
Well done Tate Modern,
Certainly livens up the Friday afternoon waiting for the clock to tickaround.
You can risk assess everyting until there is zero risk i.e. dont do it in the first place.
Here is the prime example of sensible risk assessment, would be interested though as to what the review panel of the tate modern thought and did following the two people falling in?
There are plenty of examples of danger, sensibly assessed but people still get hurt.
You cant legislate for stupidity.
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