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#1 Posted : 11 October 2007 13:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Aggi Katniak
When our company has to provide safety shoes to staff, how much do we have to pay ?
Do you have a base level - and if people want to upgrade to something a little more fashionable - can they pay the difference. ?
I need to provided shoes for some staff and believe that £30 is the base level.........

What's your view on that?

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Aggi
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#2 Posted : 11 October 2007 14:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Garry Mcglaid
Sounds reasonable to me Aggi, unless there is a medical condition which would require specialist footwear, then it would be whatever was necessary to allow the employee to do their job.

That should save you getting the young guys coming and asking for a pair of timberlands at £90

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#3 Posted : 12 October 2007 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren (Daz) Fraser
£30 sounds a good guide.

May be worth getting in contact with one of the larger companies (ARCO, BUCK & HICKMAN, BRIGGS etc) for example and asking if you was to use them as your main supplier, would they be willing to generate a range within your budget that the employees could choose from. You will find, dependant upon numbers that they are sometimes willing to include 1 or 2 of the slightly more expensive (over your budget) into the range.
They can also create some nifty posters for you to put up showing the entire range.
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#4 Posted : 12 October 2007 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob34
£30 is the level we use. If they want something above this range the employee pays the differnece.

As with the post above we got our supplier to give us a range that cost £30 and produce a poster. They have included one that cost slightly more andslightly less but kept the level at £30 for all which has made it a lot easier to manage
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#5 Posted : 12 October 2007 14:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
Am I missing something here? I thought that the PPE Regs. require the employer to provide PPE at no cost to the employee?

Safety shoes, when required are PPE and therefore should be supplied at no cost.

I agree if the employee wants something more trendy that they can pay the difference, as long as they still afford the correct level, of protection.

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#6 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Garry Mcglaid
Thats exactly the point i made crim,

The PPE selected should be adequate, however if its a basic safety boot thats needed then there is nowt wrong with setting a budget.
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#7 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
They are meaning they are free up to £30 and aren't charging their employees.
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#8 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By David MacFarlane
The only time we will charge our operatives for PPE is when repeat offenders "lose" their PPE, afterall, "care of" is their responsibility! We too have a basic at around £30, if our operatives want to upgrade, we charge them £5 per week from their wage until paid off, I think this is very reasonable??

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#9 Posted : 12 October 2007 15:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
I think that's fair

We also had a new for old procedure where they had to produce the old ones so we could check - just in case - that they were not worn out from homers. This was replacements outwith the slotted time.

Lilian
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#10 Posted : 12 October 2007 21:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian_P
Fair, and reasonable points y'all.

I agree that it's economically justifiable to set a base level for shoes, but we have to be careful about making the commonly quoted £30 become an urban myth.

Each workplace needs to be assessed as to what footwear is suitable for that particular place. In some workplaces a £30 pair of shoes may not be suitable (e.g. high risk manufacturing industries etc.), however
in some workplaces you can get a suitable pair for much less.

Before you start typing frantically (I hold my hands up, I do it too!!), I'm not disagreeing with any of the posts just pointing out, as some posts were indicating correctly, that £30 is not a 'base level' for all.

I have first hand experience of employers only paying £30 towards footwear when additional expenditure is necessary - believing that £30 is the extent of their duty.
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#11 Posted : 15 October 2007 09:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Aggi Katniak
thank you all for response :)

Aggi
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