Posted By Bob Shillabeer
Martin you have answered your own question by asking is there a NVQ for it. It is not important that there is an NVQ or not just that they need to be trained to do the task correctly in the first instance, and if it as simple a task as you say this will not take long or cost very much. I am assuming the instalation is properly tested by a formally competent person before it is put into formal use by the costomer/user.

Posted By Ali
As long as they are competent enough there doesn't have to be any specific course other than a general H&S awareness course. You will have to decide what is competence in their case, which could be a mix of basic H&S awareness and relevant experience. The training should be proportionate to the risk.
Ali

Posted By Garry Homer
Kitchens are one of the special locations where the regulations have been tightened and they now come under Part P of the building regulations if it is a domestic dwelling.

Electricians must then be qualified and registered with an appropriate body, ie, NAPIT if they are to self-certify their own work. Otherwise the work must be notified in advance to the LA building control who will supervise the work and have it tested upon completion. There will be a fee for this.

Garry

Posted By Ron Hunter
Martin,

I've been doing similar research on this, having identified a need to 'formalise' the competencies of a couple of in-house engineers.
The best I can see thus far is City and Guilds 2377 which is focussed on PAT testing (and costs approx £225).
From your perspective, I'm aware that it is fairly common for kitchen installers to cut off the moulded plug on new appliances to enable the cord to pass through units etc. There are many potential pitfalls, perhaps the most significant of which are nicks to conductors caused by poor stripping, inappropriate lengths of protective and current carrying conductor secondary insulation lengths/ poor strain relief, and inappropriate fusing.
My thinking is that a PAT Testing qualification should formally cover these basics, and also allow for use of the simple Pass/Fail hand-held PAT Testers widely available on the market.
Obviously, the correct cable stripping tools are a must too.
What do others think?















What do others think?

Posted By Martin Taylor
thanks for picking up this thread guys - I'd given up on finding something but now the CORGI course certainly looks a goer if I can find one in my area.

Oh and yes the application is not in a domestic arena - not even a shop environment - its a mock up area we have within the kitchen development section - lighting if the finished product is a key issue as you might expect

Martin

Posted By Martin J Morley
Hi,
There is an HSE FAQ page at http://www.hse.gov.uk/electricity/faq.htm#a5 which discusses this matter.
Their simple comment is that "Simple tasks such as wiring a plug are within the grasp of many people" but they then go on to qualify that response - the previous replies have explored a similar range of options.

Posted By Glyn Atkinson
Never assume that someone can strip a plug down and refit wiring correctly to the industry standard.

How would you train a new learner? Go from this as a starting point in your quest for qualification - and stop when you have reached the level needed for your particular work.

A local college practical wiring course to C&G standards as new learner apprentices have to undergo may be appropriate, because you have already stated that qualified personnel test after installation is complete.

Local apprentice trainees probably go to a local training provider and will complete test boards to satisfy practical testing by the governing body in your local area.

My advice would be to contact your local college for further advice and information.

You need to prove that anyone wiring up the show area is competent to do so safely and there will be some form of local technical course that will satisfy your requirement.

As previously stated, the wiring is possibly a semi skilled level of training, but the testing needs to have the "put it right if faulty" element to it.