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#1 Posted : 25 October 2007 18:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Ivan
has anybody has any experience of offering free talks on Health and Safety or Risk Assessment to 15-18yr old children at their schools

i know that iosh has approved a workplace Health Safety course (whac) but this is seperate to that

i'm thinking that not only is this a good way to educate the workers of tomorrow, but its also a good marketing tool for IOSH and all safety professionals, as if the message was engaging and effective, they would all tell their mums/dads who would be employers/employees etc and also we can redress the balance and try to get the message that health and safety people are in fact lifesavers (at the moment, our profession's image is more akin to crimewatch than baywatch) - heroes, not zeroes could be the theme

whats more, if IOSH devised an 'official and approved' 40min , perhaps the myriad consultants with empty diaries might be able to deliver this to interested schools/colleges on a voluntary basis

win-win-win surely?

interested to hear about any feedback or experience, or who wants to help me organise something (I'm in Sussex)
best regards
Chris

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#2 Posted : 25 October 2007 18:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Chris, there is already a lot going on in this corner of the safety universe. Organisations like the Education Business Partnerships do a lot of work with schoolchildren at various stages of their development. This work is a well respected part of a schools resources. A lot is centred on Key Stage 4 because that fits neatly with the general curriculum and preparing for work experience.
There is a wealth of information and guidance for both schools and students via various websites including, of course, the IOSH and ROSPA sites but also on government sites such as safelearner.com or the Learning and Skills Council sites.
I applaud your thoughts on this and I am not knocking the proposal, I just wanted to let you know the playing field already has several players on it.
One thing I can confirm for you is that if you think doing H&S in the workplace is challenging, try doing it with schoolchildren of any age!!
Why not contact your local EBP and see if they would weloome you as a "presenter" or to assist on an enterprise day that includes H&S?
http://www.nebpn.org/aboutus.htm
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#3 Posted : 26 October 2007 10:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Ivan
Many thanks Pete for the update, its good to hear that this is already happening and I look forward to finding out more about this in my area
regards
Chris

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#4 Posted : 26 October 2007 10:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ali
This not new at all ! When I used to work at the local council as an Environmental Health Officer we had a team that went into schools and gave talks. Additionally, each year we would liase with the Police, Fire Authority and Highways and produce something called "Safety Rangers" where the enforcement agencies would run different scenarios at a participating school and get other schools to visit and participate in the scenarios. We EHO's would act out H&S role play situations, which was not only great fun but very educational too.
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#5 Posted : 26 October 2007 17:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Budworth
Hi Chris,

I applaude your enthusiasm. there is quite a lot going on in this area.

We have developed a full day course called the Workplace Hazard Awareness Course (or WHAC), which is availble free to schools - very interactive - excellent.


It fits into the national curriculum, has been approved by teachers and the HSE and contains everything that a teacher needs to teach a class the basics of safety.

It would be brilliant if members could promote this course to their local secondary school. the target audience is year 10 students, ideally just before work experience.

We have also produced the wiseup2work website aimed at this age group.

Check it out via the home page of this web site.

So far it looks like we will have upwards of 30,000 kids going through this course this year. Good, but not enough !

Best Regards

Neil
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#6 Posted : 27 October 2007 11:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Chris,
My company has been doing this for several years now, doing it for free at schools our own children attend. We have been giving talks and putting up exhibition stands at school employment fairs. I wouldn’t go as far as suggest that consultancies should become voluntary agencies giving free talks to all schools, after all we poor guys have a living to make too.

Over the years since my kids started schools I have re-discovered that the awareness of safety by teachers is excellent. They are very competent workers, who are well aware of their responsibilities and duties towards the young people in their charge, and have ensured through experience and assessment that any hazardous activities that take place in the school are well controlled and any PPE that is required is issued, demonstrated and the pupils taught to understand t he reasons for them. When my kids were issued goggles it was not to play conkers, but to safeguard their eyes during science experiments.

We have been made very welcome in the schools and have provided talks to class sized groups as well as to larger groups in the assembly halls. What we have been found is that we are assisting the teaching staff prepare their pupils for work-experience and employment. Pupils are lively and keen, particularly when the teacher uses the time to catch up on his/her paper work in the annex, and we have had the class to ourselves. Questions flow and the discussion is incredible.

Over the years I have come across projects as far apart as Ireland, Scotland and Australia that are very similar, and indeed the aim is to get all “safety professionals”, not just the consultants, to go into the schools. Those on a wage can do this too, and I would encourage them to do at least one a year where they have children, grandchildren, or nephews/nieces at a local school.

In the past couple of years, the IOSH branch in NI has been encouraging its members to do likewise, in fact it is a topic on our next agenda, and has been for three years. I do not see it as an opportunity to promote IOSH, but rather as an opportunity to raise an awareness amongst young people that to be a competent worker they need to develop an awareness of the hazards that they may face and will have to control. In the long run competent workers and competent organisations will be relying upon their own competence to control work operations and guys like us will become superfluous (because we have done a good job).

If you are nervous of talking to pupils in school, or not sure how to go about it, feel free to ask the teachers for a few pointers, or anyone else that you know who has worked with young people. They really don’t bite, but they are not afraid to ask what might appear to be the strangest of questions. But remember, they want to know, so whatever you can give them, give. But do not be afraid to tell them if you do not know. Kids are not stupid and will pick up a bluff very quickly and then you have lost them. Set them the task of finding out and promise that you will get the answer to them (a wee note to the teacher who will pass it on).

As other contributors have pointed out, there are many resources, including IOSH resources, available, some free, some at a cost. We have used our own company resources, bringing in such items as RPE, hi-vis PPE, hard hats etc, and letting the kids have a real hands-on session. We have produced information sheets for the pupils, their teachers and parents, and for their prospective employers. This means that they all go away with something to facilitate further discussion in school and at home, and a reminder that the visit was more than just a “free period”.

In my experience it is a good exercise for all to be involved in, whether a safety professional or not. As parents it is another way to facilitate the safe transition from school to work, and to be in touch with what our kids are thinking about as they face this transition.

NI members, the next branch meeting is 13th November in Craigavon, and for my sins I’ll be expanding on this contribution,

Regards, Philip
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