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#1 Posted : 02 November 2007 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Macleod
Guy's,

I'm looking for info sheets and or powerpoint presentations to assist me in explaining the difference between inspections and audits to some mebers of my management team.

Can any of you help me out...without me having to re9invent the wheel?

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Frank
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#2 Posted : 02 November 2007 14:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Frank,

sorry but I rarely share these things.

All I can offer is that, for me, an inspection concerns technical matters and requires technical expertise. Audits concern mainly people and their behaviours and require management expertise.

Build on that

Merv
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#3 Posted : 02 November 2007 14:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brando
For me when people say "audit" I think along Merv's lines but add in "safety management systems" ( how well documented, how well they perform etc ).

Brando
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#4 Posted : 02 November 2007 18:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Craythorne
Frank,

Look upon an inspection as a means of identifying unsafe acts and unsafe conditions within a workplace e.g. operator not wearing PPE is an unsafe act, fire exit obstructed is an unsafe condiditon.

An audit is a means of testing the effective implementation of systems, policies, procedures etc. that you have in place for managing OH&S e.g. establishing whether risk assessments are being carried out in accordance with the methodology you have adopted, ensuring that training needs are identified as per your training, awareness and competence procedure, checking that you have identified the legal and other requirements that apply to your organisation and that you are in compliance.

In essence auditing OH&S is not too disimilar to auditing quality.

Hope this helps.

Paul Craythorne
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#5 Posted : 02 November 2007 19:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Welch
Frank,

The term safety auditing means different things to different folks. Some folks have used it as being almost identical with workplace inspection, although auditing is a much more thorough review of procedures beyond what can merely be observed in the workplace. The HSE's publication Successful Health and Safety Management, considers safety auditing to be a crucial part of the feedback process in safety management systems and define it as

... the structured process of collecting independent information on the efficiency, effectiveness and reliability of the total safety management system, and drawing up plans for corrective action.

three different types of safety audits are:

the management safety audit - this is normally carried out yearly, and covers general safety matters, it involves local staff and will be normally conducted by a manager(s), H&S specialists or trained auditors.

the plant technical audit - this involves an in-depth review of all plant and processes carried out by specialist staff. It is usually conducted less often than the management safety audit, which in itself may examine many aspects of the plant technical audit.

the site technical audit, this covers all work of a specified type at agreed intervals and normally involves both local and specialist staff.

A number of other monitoring techniques are available some are described below, many have similar features.

Workplace inspections
These are essentially concerned with what can be seen from observations within the workplace. They are used mainly to look at physical conditions, and are often carried out by supervisors, line managers, H&S professionals, safety reps or combinations of these staff.

Safety tours
Safety tours tend to be logical and frequently ad-hoc examinations of a given workplace, carried out on a walk through basis. They are mainly concerned with physical conditions. Managers often use this method to abreast themselves with what is happening in the workplace, and to make obvious their interest, ‘awareness’ and concern for health and safety issues.

Safety sampling
This requires reviews of specific elements of health and safety on a random basis, for example tidiness, cleanliness, control of hazardous substances, control of waste stream, control of traffic routes etc etc..

Behaviour sampling
This is the assessment of employee’s behaviour on a planned sampling basis to establish the amount of ‘unsafe’ work practices which might require corrective actions, for example by discipline, training or process / design improvements. The competencies necessary to perform this function are similar to those for safety sampling.

That’s it for now, some of the other types get a bit technical…

Brian
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#6 Posted : 03 November 2007 09:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Macleod
Guy's,

Thanks for the info guy's and it is very much appreciated. Agree with all the comments made I was simply looking for a presentation on it without me having to sit down and make one myself (hence the reinvent the wheel comment). I'll make one up and if anyone wants a copy deop me a line and I'll send it on.

Thanks once again.

Frank
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#7 Posted : 04 November 2007 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ciaran McAleenan
Good Morning Frank,

There are a couple of PowerPoints on safety Exchange, where one or two of the slides may be of use.

One produced by Bill Bircham (Integrating Audits) and one by Stpehen Fulwell (OHSMS).

When you are complete if you want to share your final piece of work we will happily host it on the Exchange.

Best wishes

Ciaran
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