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#1 Posted : 02 November 2007 19:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim Help please! Can anyone point me toward any specific requirement for a first aider on a construction site. I know all about carrying out a risk assessment that would result in the requirement but is there any written word that states first aiders are required on all sites? I can only find the likes of "is there adequate first aid provision". Thanks in anticipation.
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#2 Posted : 02 November 2007 19:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Crim indg214 details construction as a high risk activity and provides guidance for numbers of trained personnel etc. CFT
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#3 Posted : 08 November 2007 09:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil It all depends on what drops out of the R/A. Our remote sites involving high risk activities ( working at height, confined spaces and diving etc ) All have a medic and trauma kit with training to deal with suspension trauma, DCI etc. Dont forget that if you have special circumstances YOU need to make special arrangements. Dont rely on the emergency services, they may not get to you in time, and may not be trained to deal with your problem ( DCI, Suspention trauma etc ) As with all new projects, do the R.A and address the outcomes. If you need any more info about our training regime or kit, projects etc give me a shout Phil
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#4 Posted : 19 November 2007 16:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant To clarify your original question, no there is not a specific legislative clause that says all sites must have "a first-aider". They need first aid "provision", which means supply of whatever equipment and trained persons is suggested by your risk assessment. The text of the 1981 regs says 3(1) "an employer shall provide...such equipment and facilities as are adequate and appropriate in the circumstances for enabling first aid to be rendered..." 4(2) "...shall provide... such number of suitable persons as is adequate and appropriate in the circumstances for rendering first-aid..." Both therefore depend on an RA, but of course if an employee suffers injury and "adequate" first aid wasn't capable of being provided you'll have a case against you. The definition of "adequate" has changed over the years as medical techniques and equipment have improved, for example in 1981 nobody would have considered a defibrillator necessary even for a major venue, but now they're appearing on most high streets. Adequate also means the nature of the work changes the deliverables, as the previous poster has listed. They have to be foreseeable (you don't provide first aid to deal with a meteor impact), but things like chemical splashes, welding burns etc., certainly would be. In the ACOP they give an *example* of 1 appointed person for 'construction' where there are 1-5 people on site, 1 first-aider for sites with 5-50 people, etc.. but these are just that; examples. A lot of the job-specific British Standards ask for more (BS8437 for users of fall protection PPE asks for first aid trained people and equipment on every workplace irrespective of head counts) so ultimately it's a question of how low you go before you're accused of not following "general good practice".
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#5 Posted : 19 November 2007 19:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim Thanks Dave, I like what you say. many thanks
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#6 Posted : 21 November 2007 09:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Webber And dont forget that the duty to provide First Aid cover is on the "Employer" - and that includes all the contractors on site. Of course the Principal Contractor must ensure that sufficient cover exists on site, but the basic cover supplied by the PC is augmented by the contractors First Aiders.
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