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Posted By Phillip
Is it true that sparklers are the most dangerous firework. Giving 5 year olds hot bits of metal to run with and wave around at eye level is not very clever.
do you have any H7S comments on Nov 5th Bonfire etc?
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Posted By anon1234
come on don't go over the top and stop everyone enjoying themselves - I have children and there is nothing that can't be managed with some proper supervision.
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Posted By Jim Walker
If I celebrate 5th Nov with fireworks or bonfire or whatever; why don't the police charge me with an offence of inciting religious hatred ?
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Posted By Mart
If this counts, I broke my arm once when using a sparkler.
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Posted By Sally
Come on then, tell all!! how did you break your arm using a sparkler.
More seriously I think these are a great example of sensible risk management. Something with the potential to cause a lot of harm that can be made safe with a few easy precautions. You don't let 5 year olds run around with them, you get them to stand still. You make sure they have gloves on (but not nylon ones) and you have a bucket of water to put them in at the ned
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Posted By anon1234
What!!!!! - you now want to drown the children ;>
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Posted By CFT
Hierarchically speaking, other than special organised under licence events, think of the elimination achieved in one foul swoop if they were not available to the public!
GF really does a lot to answer for.
CFT
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Posted By holmezy
They only drown if you put the in the bucket "head first". Normally they are dunked feet first to allow the cold to gently rise up through their little bodies until they complain sufficiently enough that they are then whisked away to a hot bath and a nice warm bed, that way they feel the benefit. This then allows the adults to continue with the grog undisturbed. I recommend that this ritual is started around about tea time so as to allow maximum drinking time.
This practise should continue until the child is 8yrs old, by which time they can then be sent up chimneys and they can at least contribute some money to the household.
Its a tough life, but they'll thank you for it in later years.
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Posted By Mart
Yes i admit i was about 5 years old and i was
running around with the sparkler when i fell over and broke my arm. So risk assessment does actually work. Well done
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Posted By andrew morris
Any H&S comments? Its not work related so no.
However, for those who want to ban sparklers, how about a ban on licking the bowl when you make cake mixture (all those raw eggs!) and a precautionary ban on Wifi in the home. banning or even suggesting they are too risky would be the end for our profession
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
As a remnant of anti-catholicism in England I think it is time the day was duly despatched to the dustbin of history along with the Act of Settlement.
Fireworks need for me to be properly controlled and not available to anybody who can find a supplier.
Bob
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Posted By Steve
I love fireworks, my kids love them, my friends love them and we have a really good party every November 5th. As long as they are used sensibly I cannot see a problem.
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Posted By J Knight
I like a good display, but honestly, most private party type affairs are pretty pathetic, which isn't surprising when you consider how much the really good fireworks cost.
Much to my dismay most of our care centres have stopped having bonfires because they are 'too dangerous'; I've never said they should stop or expressed any reservations whatsoever, they've done it entirely on their own behalf; its the 'safety officer in the head'. Bill Boroughs said that a really well established police state wouldn't need Police; sometimes I feel that way about healthcare & H&S,
John
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Posted By Tabs
So fight back John - challenge them.
I did a year or so ago when someone told me that "health and safety" would not let me have a filing cabinet behind my desk ... "oh dear, just exactly WHO told you that?" I asked, explaining who I was.
Red face, apology and cabinet where I wanted it.
Small but important victory.
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Posted By BB
My scottie dog, Digger, says they should all be banned!! He is still hiding under the sofa.
Personally, I too love fireworks, but not the pathetic little farty ones. Big bangs is where it's at, and best done professionally.
Doesn't it strike anyone else strange that:
a) It's fine to send loads of crap into the atmosphere on fire, but then we have to drive inefficient and neutered cars that must comply with EU3 emissions anoraktives.
b) You can't get on an airliner with a bottle of Evian, but you can buy enough fireworks to re-engineer into a pretty convincing explosive device.
Hey-ho. I'm off to set fire to another effigy.
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Posted By J Knight
Tabs,
That's not a bad idea; it would be good for the old image as well, might get my new team to work on it,
John
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Unfortunately my two rough collies think they are almost better than fresh tripe and cannot wait to get outside and sit in awe and wonder at the aerial display and bangs. They get truly miserable when they stop. I think they regard me as the grumpy old man of Buxton.
New Year is now awaited!!
Bob
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
I love having fun and a good bonfire where you can put your tatties in and have them 'roasted' and while this is happening have the kids play games, watch the fireworks and hold some sparklers is good fun and can be done without probelms when people take care.
As to Digger, there was something on the one Show last night for doggies (didn't see it but people are asking me for one for next year - some folk think I know everything or at least they trust me to get them the info).
What concerns me is having fireworks at times you don't expect and pets getting hurt while running from the noise. Also, with the noise some of the fireworks now make, some older people get a fright thinking of the WW2 bombs.
So, fireworks good to have at the right time, place, actions.
Lilian
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Posted By J Knight
We had two cats (one of them died about three years ago), brother and sister. The brother was a typical, swaggering bold tom cat, curious, adveturous and unafraid, but one bang from fireworks and he would be under the nearest piece of furniture shivering uncontrollably and wide-eyed with fear. His sister, still alive, who is such a coward that she has quite literally been know to shy at her own shadow, is completely unimpressed by fireworks, and pays them no attention at all.
So there you go, its a funny old world etc etc,
John
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Posted By Brando
Sparklers are great fun until someone gets burnt.
Many years ago I saw someone grab the business end of a sparkler and it was not pleasant.
Certainly agree that kids should not be wrapped in cotton wool but there is no way I would put something with such a high potential for harm into my childs hands. Whatever next - the little devils will be wanting to use my chainsaw!!
Fireworks are great fun but leave them to the pros.
Brando
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Posted By Merv Newman
since we have totally lost the plot on this thread (sparklers/children) I suppose I can put up a rocket or two.
November the 5th really has nothing to do with burning the odd catholic. (never a good idea) It is really a slight displacement of Samhein, which is variously called Halloween, All Saints or Walpurgisnacht. Just another example of the Catholic church trying to put a different spin on the Old Religion's celebrations ; solstices and so on.
Anyway, back to the plot. I'm all for a professionally organised event (more bang for your buck) with all children under 16 on a lunge rein.
Merv
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