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#1 Posted : 12 November 2007 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By GavinR Hi everyone, Can you offer some advice please. Just completed a COSHH assessment for use of Methyl Ethyl Ketone which is highly flammable and has a flash point of - 4°C according to the MSDS. (from definitions i believe it should actually be Extremely Flamm)It is supplied only in 25 L drums. I have identified we need flammable liquid suitable metal bench can for storing the small quantities that will be used to soak the rags and the flammable bunded storage unit for storing the 25L drum. I have 2 issues though that i need advice with. There is already some flammable liquids, approx 35L stored in the storage unit inside. Adding the MEK 25L will bring it above 50L of DSEAR. Does this mean it will have to be placed in an outside flammable storage unit now? Also for transferring from the 25L to the small 4L bench can i for see manual handling issues- is there a suitable method for transferring highly flammable liquids? Any help appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 12 November 2007 14:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson Gavin, I cant answer your query but would ask if you have taken into account that you should be considering static electricity and earth bonding if you are decanting MEK? Its many years since I dealt with earth bonding when handling bulk HFL but I do seem to recall that we used it when decanting MEK. Sorry if you have already considered this aspect
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#3 Posted : 12 November 2007 14:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson Gavin, I should have added that we used pumps powered by compressed air or syphon pumps. We considered the risks of spillage to high to do it by any other means.
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#4 Posted : 12 November 2007 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham I noted the word "rags" which suggests to me that there will be some hand contact. Have you therefore considered in your risk assessment the question of gloves? The only glove that provides anything other than very short term (splash) protection for MEK is butyl - which cost around £10 - 15 per pair - and even butyl is only a class 5 glove. Depending upon what you will be using the MEK for, I have had good success using simple paint pads (available at any DIY store). With the paint pad you have no direct contact between solvent and gloved hand, so a simpler, less expensive glove can be used. Chris
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#5 Posted : 12 November 2007 15:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kenneth Patrick The issues you raise are matters for DSEAR not COSHH. MEK is irritating to eyes and skin and carries the risk phrases R36/37 so it does require a COSHH assessment.
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#6 Posted : 12 November 2007 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kite I presume you are using MEK for cleaning purposes have you thought of using a alternative cleaner therefore doing away with MEK altogether
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#7 Posted : 12 November 2007 16:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins Gavin The 50 litre "limit" is not absolute and in your case where you would only just be above 50 litres I would not have thought it was necessary to have an external container provided your risk assessment identifies sufficient controls to minimise spillage and/or generation of vapour. See http://www.hse.gov.uk/fi.../storageflammliquids.htm for further detail on this. As for dispensing, provided you have adequate extraction and suitable spillage containment you should be able to use one of the purpose-designed drum taps. These are designed to fit directly onto a 25 litre drum while it is lying on its side and to allow dispensing straight into a safety can. As said above, you need to consider earthing to prevent generation of static sparks and you need to be sure that you buy fittings suitable for handling low flashpoint liquids. An alternative solution if you are not happy to have the drum on its side (although we do this quite safely) is to buy a hand pump which again is purpose designed to fit directly into the top of the drum and allow the liquid to be pumped while the drum remains vertical. Again be sure you have a type suitable for handling hi flam liquids. Most safety equipment companies will have something suitable - a google search for "flammable liquid drum pump" pulls up loads. Don't forget to provide for safe disposal of the solvent-soaked rags - a metal container is best.
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#8 Posted : 12 November 2007 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By GavinR Cheers for the advice. We have to use MEK as it is a customer requirement for the process. This will be used with a plunger can that controls the amount of MEK released to the rag/pad so contact will be minimal and PPE will be provided as per COSHH assessment. I'm aware that DSEAR regs apply as well as COSHH hence the flammable storage & dispensing query. I think i have covered thepoints suggested so far so thanks all who responded, much appreciated advice and reassuring to know i was on the right course with this one!
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#9 Posted : 13 November 2007 13:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Taylor If it's any use to you, we have MEK in 500ml metal tins. Contact me direct and I will get the suppliers name for you. As for 25litre containers, I'd keep them outside anyway as a spill will release large volumes of toxic and potentially explosive vapour. I'd also worry about sparks opening cans etc. Bronze (sparkless)tooling and taps etc are available.
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#10 Posted : 25 November 2007 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Derek Carpenter AUGs do not allow commercial suggestions but you should endeavour to find an alternative of which their are a number to suit you and create a safer setting. You should guide your customer since you have responsibility on your site. He simply wants a clean part. There is no need to take added risks.Using it because its cheap does not get past it being unhelpful to handle. Just Google MEK replacement.
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