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Posted By Graeme Main
Hello all,
I am looking for a bit of help, we have a member of staff who has an allergy to wasp and bee stings. she carries with her an Epi-pen for use if required.
We will do all the usual risk assessments etc, my problem however is finding someone to supply training for our first aiders in the use of type of equipment.
St John's and Red Cross have not been able to help, do any of you out there know of anybody that could help we are based in Lincoln.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Kinds regards
Graeme.
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Posted By Naz Nathu
Graeme
The whole point of carrying the Epi Pen is that they inject themselves rather than get a first aider to do it.
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Posted By Tabs
Call your local hospital and ask about it there. Failing that, try the local First Responder arm of the ambulance service.
If they both fail, find an Expedition Medicine training center.
Possibly even the local GP.
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Posted By Graeme Main
Hello Naz,
Sorry I should have said that she has informed us that her reaction to a sting can be so rapid that she my not able to self administer.
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Posted By Dave Merchant EpiPen's UK website at www.epipien.co.uk has instructions on administration that would typically be sufficient for an already-trained first aider to follow (the notion behind the device is to make it as simple to use as possible, and while there are training tools available and it's worth including on a existing course (I do on mine), it probably doesn't warrant "a course" in isolation). It's important to remember that the device is used only at the point where airway patency is threatened and not simply because of exposure to an allergen - the vast majority of Epipen users never actually use them before they expire. Intramuscular adrenaline for treating acute anaphylaxis is exempted from the Medicines Act's POM control schedules, so it's perfectly legal for a first aider (or anyone else) to administer in an emergency. There's also quite a discussion on the legal ramifications of training and administering the device at the First Aid Cafe forums.. search about at http://www.firstaidcafe.co.uk/Forum/
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Posted By Ian Blenkharn
She needs to carry an Epi-Pen, has been prescribed Epi-Pens by a physician, and should have been trained to use them.
Have you asked your employee for the information that you need? It's quite likely that she will be happy to share the info!
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Posted By Pam Williamson
My son has a peanut allergy and when the school he attends became aware of it they arranged for a community nurse to go into school and 'train' staff how to administer the epi-pen as he does not want to do it himself yet (he is 14). Of course there is also the issue of a serious reaction and being unable to administer the adrenaline in time.
The nurse also brought with her a Ppt. of the signs to look out for in the event of an attack / emergency.
So the the first point of call is a health centre or a doctors surgery.
Pam
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Posted By Sue Clements
Hi Graeme,
I am a Red Cross Trainer and Assessor in Cambridge.
Some of our East Anglian centres have certainly provided Epi-Pen training for members of the public, usually as part of the one day Basic First Aid course. The Epi-Pen component only takes about 10 minutes to deliver. In practice the procedure is very simple. What is imperative though, is that a first aider or member of the public would be able to recognise the signs and symptoms of anaphylaxis, when and how to use the Epi-pen, when to summon an ambulance and how to manage the casualty in the meantime. For this reason, I would recommend that Epi-Pen training should also include resuscitation, the recovery position and casualty monitoring.
If you would like to pursue the Red Cross line of enquiry let me know. Alternatively, there are other providers out there, I could probably locate their contact details in due course. Let me know what you decide.
Sue
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Posted By Sue Clements
Graame,
I have further (positive) information. If you wish to pursue the matter email directly.
Sue
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