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Posted By MW
We have had a HSE inspector visit a re-roofing project of ours and he requested that the works team switch from lace up boots to rigger boots.
The work does involve removal of asbestos cement sheeting, however adequate fibre suppression control methods are in place to avoid fibre dispersal. The inspectors point was that how can you adequatley ensure that the laces were free from contamination...a point well made in my opinion.
The problem we have is that as a company we discourage the use of rigger style boots due to poor ankle protection.
We have also been made aware that another contractor working on a similar job had the job halted as the work force were wearing rigger boots whilst on scaffold (our job involves working on scaffold also)
Any thoughts on this would be greatly recieved.
Regards,
Mark
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Posted By Glen Coe
We faced a similar dilemma with fine swarf from die grinders.
with rigger boots the foot is looser and potential to fill boot if coveralls are tucked in, as some do.
lace up boots dragged the fine swarf into the change rooms and caused splinters to enter feet and became medical treatments!
we developed a canvas gaiter, similar to the sort hill walkers use.
The hill walkers gaiter's can be bought quite cheaply and laundered with the coveralls
hope it helps GC
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Posted By Liesel
When I worked in the asbestos field we always specced rigger boots with disposable overalls over the top (overalls cleaned down/removed in a very specific way) as the smooth surface of the rigger boot could be easily cleaned with vac/damp rags to prevent fibre contamination of clean areas. Plus with the overall/rigger boot overlap it's easy to get a seal to stop fibre ingress. That was certainly how I was trained.
The alternative of overshoes tends not to be used to much as it creates further problems. Another option we were taught was to gaffer-tape the laces on lace-up boots to get a smooth surface.
So I'd say the HSE inspector was advising in terms of asbestos industry norms.
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Posted By Doug Kelly
I tend to agree with Liesel as to what HM Inspector was getting at.
We have the same problem when it comes to the most appropriate footwear selection for similar non-licensed work and are looking at the option of modifying standard overboots to form 'disposable gaiters' to fit over standard lace-up safety boots. Maybe this would work for you? We have tried gaffer-taping the laces but have found that this only serves to fray the laces very quickly which also become covered with adhesive.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Mark,
You are left between a rock and a hard place when HSE Inspectors make "requests" or express opinions such as this.
What will be there "opinion" when you RIDDOR report a lost-time serious ankle injury?
Have confidence in your own Risk Assessments and in a proper balance of relative risk.
You are working on removal of AC! The risk of fibre release must be very very slight.Idea of over-covers sounds a good and reasonably practicable solution.
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Posted By AHS
Sorry chaps no laces for work with Asbestos wouldnt like to comment on the other scenarios could breach AUGS.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
But AHS, the poster's dilemma is that this is a construction project which happens to involve removal of some AC!
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Posted By Bruce Sutherland
Hi
suggest you phone the inspector - they are human.... and all the ones I know bleed red blood - it is quite likely they have no idea at all of all the evidence against the use of rigger boots for anyone who needs not only ankle support but to be able to feel their feet like in roofing!
explain the problem in terms of global risk assessment - produce your personal monitoring for the AC work - obviously if you have not got that then not only are you out of bounds but think your self lucky that the inspector obviously has not read past footwear in the asbestos book - and take it from there - oh and if any one is going off on on about laces - then please can you explain what happens to all the high viz that is worn ( 'cos its a construction site) and the harness in scissor lifts during the removal of AC roof sheets - if you think they are chucked away then you really are bonkers conkers as they go straight in the van and onto the next job.
cheers
Bruce
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Posted By Adrian Watson
I agree with Bruce.
However, if the Inspector is insistent buy a disposable gaiter. The reality is the use of rigger boots in these circumstances is not the best footwear for use on a construction site when working on scaffolding. Inside an enclosure wet stripping, well that's another matter.
Regards Adrian
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Posted By David B Wright
The company for whom I work, has banned rigger boots on site except for roofers. Quite a disappointment really if you happen to be an office worker with minimal time spent on site.
Surely the risk assessment must be sensible and take into account activities whils wearing this type of footwear? Or this being too sensible?
It is also worth noting that our corporate magazine shows our company MD posing and wearing rigger boots!
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Posted By Bob Youel
after extensive personal research I have found that there is no real evidence that standard rigger boots are any less effective re supporting the ankle that standard lace ups
time and again I have come across managers who will not allow riggers irrespective of the conditions on site
risk assess [noting my comments re ankle support] and supply PPE from there
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