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#1 Posted : 27 December 2007 11:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By songwriter
Hope you all had a merry Xmas, can anyone cheer me up please, i try to give my boss Policy's on slips, trips and falls and many other things and he says we don't need them as we are highlighting problems and asking for trouble and opening cans of worms etc. can someone cheer me up please, I'm really trying to do a good job.
i need to get this from my system before new year cos I'm sure my boss will see the light in the new year.lol

thanks to you all.
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#2 Posted : 27 December 2007 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Coshh Assessor
Ask your boss: if we don't highlight problems, how can we solve them?
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#3 Posted : 27 December 2007 12:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By songwriter
when i tried to put the slips/trips/falls policy to him, he asked how many accidents have we had in these areas and my reply was 1, he says we dont need a policy on it then, prevention is better than cure, why can't he see this.lol thanks for the reply.
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#4 Posted : 27 December 2007 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Hello, 'songwriter'

Judging from your question on this and the related one about 'stress' at work, you're approaching 2008 and energy!

May I suggest that, in relation to your senior management, you consider an alternative approach to that of legal compliance?

An analogy to consider is that of a sports or exercise coach, in football or rugby or other sport of your choice. He/she doesn't concentrate on keeping rules but on a player's fitness and safety on a daily basis, strategy for scoring, aiming for 'key' events and learning from all the individual can.

So, may 2008 the year you learn to become a 'safety coach'. If it means, you coach elsewhere with a team owner who values his players, at least you may achieve a lot more - and may even be rewarded on a quite different basis of how effective you are.

Why not take time to study coaches you can emulate?
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#5 Posted : 27 December 2007 12:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By songwriter
Thanks for your Comments and support Kieron, i am looking at other options as this one just demoralises me.lol i try to keep cheerful but its only a matter of time before a major accident happens and i don't want to be here when it does, if it's my fault then fine if it's not, let them carry the can.
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#6 Posted : 27 December 2007 12:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By songwriter
sorry, it's Kieran, not Kieron
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#7 Posted : 27 December 2007 12:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Inspiring coaches sometimes start just where you are!

When Clive Woodward took over the English RFU as coach in 1999, they lost 76-0 to Australia; four years later, they beat them in the Rugby World Cup Final, after he had played a major part in changing the design of how everyone in the English squad, on and off the field, thought about the the 'work' of kicking and throwing an oval ball. (He even included a barrister whose services at a hearing made sure neither the coach nor the players were distracted by a hearing which arose after England had 16 players on the field for 20 seconds of a game at the quarter final stage).

Changing safe work environments also starts with someone observing fresh ways to influence how managers think, listen and speak about how everyone they thought about what they do. This doesn't have to be labelled 'behavioural safety' but can start from your own creative ways of listening and observing how your managers and others act and think.

Does you m.d. greet you when he meets you and first thing ask for an update on what has changed with the HSE and statutory framework?

If not, why not introduce safety by talking about what he's really interested in and will be really glad you help him with? The best safety coaches really do operate on this basis.
Looks simple yet it's crafty: everyone who succeeds at person-and-context-specific development says it's hard - but exciting.
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#8 Posted : 03 January 2008 16:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By alan brotherton
You have my sympathy because I am in exactly the same position trying to do a competent job with one hand tied behind my back and getting the retorts like "cans of worms"
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#9 Posted : 04 January 2008 01:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
I have some sympathy with your Boss, songwriter.
Ask yourself what value a raft of Policy documents will add. They will obviously be aspirational, and scrutiny by the enforcers may merely present an obvious banana skin (pardon the pun). What value do these documents add, over and above the Organisation's "overarching" H&S Policy?
Your Boss may be looking more for positives by way of action, solutions, and things which will have an obvious, if not immediate, impact and add value to the organisation.
I suggest you would do better to conduct a comprehensive audit and risk appraisal of the organisation, identifying areas of weakness/vulnerability. Consult with all stakeholders, then building and presenting to management a set of SMART objectives for improved compliance and risk reduction. This may well include some of the risk areas you are currently considering.
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