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#1 Posted : 28 December 2007 11:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Thomson
Hi
We have recently rented an adjacent unit to our existing one and asked the landlord for a hole to be cut in the wall to join the two units to allow flt movements - the landlord agreed to do this - his man turned up with step ladders and a petrol driven stihl saw! No PPE etc. We sorted him out with PPE, used our flt and man-rider cage and harness. I wonder if something had gone - wrong would we have been at fault?
Your thoughts please.
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#2 Posted : 02 January 2008 07:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel

Alterations: It depends on your terms and conditions of rent/occupation etc

Additionally where its your workplace you are probably the 'controller' so all that enter there are deemed to be under your control and if there is a problem e.g. they work dangerously then its your problem!

If a landlord undertakes building work themselves then whilst they are building they are builders so all the CDM etc regs apply

I personally would not trust the average landlord to carry out building works themselves as most [in my experience] are not competent and want cheap jobs done and you are stuck with what they leave behind!
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#3 Posted : 02 January 2008 08:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Robert

As one of two Bobs to another. This job sounds exactly like calling up the guy from yellow pages without a thought of the implications. You have not described the party wall construction but it is almost certain to be a fire wall and there may be stability issues also when removing a large section of the structure. Call the job off if it isd not too late until properly designed/assessed. If it has laready been doen get an engineer there asap to assess the situation and ensure stability etc.

It is your premise and you are in control!

Bob
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#4 Posted : 03 January 2008 14:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By alan brotherton
In furtherance of a comment made by one of the Bobs - fire safety and structural integirity are prime concerns. e.g. You (or your landlord)will need to re-do any fire risk assessments now that buildings are interlinked by a breach in the wall. I don't think there is a clear dividing line between who is responsible. I think both you and the landlord would have responsibilities but that should be defined more clearly in your terms of occupancy,lease etc. Regarding how the work was carried out and who by - it is all hindsight now but the job should have been planned and competence of the person doing the work determined at a much earlier stage.
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