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#1 Posted : 30 January 2008 12:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew M Just heard we have outsourced work to another company and now are training their guys to do our work. Obviously we have liabilities for our staff on their site. Question is what liabilities do we have for their staff and the product that comes back to us to continue working on?
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#2 Posted : 30 January 2008 13:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Are they onsite or offsite? Makes all the difference.
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#3 Posted : 30 January 2008 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew M They are off site. We are giving them vehicles to work on, then they give them back and we continue to work on them until finished. The vehicles do not always belong to us. There is a reasonable amount of cutting and welding of steel and from reports limited/no LEV and probably no health screening.
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#4 Posted : 30 January 2008 15:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Ok, you are not 'outsourcing' in the normal sense - you are buying a service. Outsourcing is generally where people other than employees enter you r workplace and do jobs within your workplace under your instruction, using your facilities. You have no real obligations to these people beyond those contained within section 3 of the HSAWA74 ... so you have to make sure that the condition you send the vehicles in do not place their operators at risks unknown to them (given that they are repairing/modifying, it is already implied that the vehicle may not be safe). They have the same responsibility to you - so if they have welded some fabric and that weld gives way and injures one of your staff, the other company would be liable. The working conditions within the other workplace is not of your direct concern, unless your company has morals. It is just like the people you buy your tyres or exhausts from ...
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#5 Posted : 31 January 2008 08:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew M Thanks Tabs, Thats what I thought. Andrew
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